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Old 20th February 2011, 21:00
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Do217K-1, WNr.4446 of KG2

Hi!

In the Warpaint Series book (#24), by Jerry Scutts, it appears a photo of a Do217K-1 WNr.4446 of KG2 (p. 22). This aircraft has one large individual code letter "G" (perhaps in yellow) on the rudder. Does not have others code letters.

Which gruppe and staffel it belonged? Any information about the crew and date will be very useful too.

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Old 21st February 2011, 04:08
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Re: Do217K-1, WNr.4446 of KG2

As far as loss info is concerned, not a KG 2 machine.

Do 217K-1, 4446, Heer, Oblt. Siegfried, , , 3., Nachtaufkl.St., gelbe Z, K7+ZL, , , 17-Aug-43, MIA with crew, cause unknown., , Lfl.1/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.20, , (Staraja-Russa-Bologoje-Ssonkowo-Tscherepowez-Podborowje-Kabosha), 100%, F, B Ltn. Hans Mayer, 2.B Uffz. Roman Lubich, Bf Uffz. Helmut Seifert & Bm Uffz. Willi Blumenschein, ,
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Old 21st February 2011, 04:27
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Re: Do217K-1, WNr.4446 of KG2

Thanks!

You have something about a Do 217K-1, 4452, Gelbe G?
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Old 21st February 2011, 04:44
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Re: Do217K-1, WNr.4446 of KG2

The only thing I have for WNr. 4452 is a photo from a Japanese photo compilation 'Warbirds Photo Album #2' on p.118 which shows the front quarter/third of the machine with the WNr. under the cockpit.

I have 3 'U5+GL's documented from losses:
Do 217E-4, 5462, MÜLLER, Ofw. Karl, , , 3., KG 2, gelbe G, U5+GL, , , 03-Feb-43, MIA with crew due to Luftkampf with Beaufighter MK.VI from 219 Sq. (F/L Willson & Bunch) during sortie to Sunderland. Crew FSA., F RK., Lfl.3/Kanal, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #8)-Vol.14; Balke, Der Luftkrieg in Europa, II, p.449; The Blitz, Then & Now, III, p.219, , bei Muston, Yorkshire, 100%, F, B Fw. Heinz Lewald, Bf Uffz. Friedrich Fruth & Bs Uffz. Heinrich Wilmsen, ,
Do 217M-1, 326258, n.n., , , 3., KG 2, , U5+GL, , , 12-Feb-44, Luftkampf with enemy fighter, probably from 263 Sq. (S/L Warnes). Bs & Fm WIA, Fw KIA. Took off from Eindhoven., WNr. 26258 per Balke., Kanal, Balke, Der Luftkrieg in Europa, II, p.479, , Josselin, 100%, F, Bs Uffz. Hans Pakulla, Fw Uffz. Bruno Fiedler & Fm Uffz. Josef Thiel, ,
Do 217M-1, 56096, Lemme, Ltn. Wolfgang, , , 3., KG 2, , U5+GL, , , 04-Dec-43, WIA due to Luftkampf with Typhoons from 198 & 609 Sq. during training flight. B & Bs also WIA., , Lfl.3/FR, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #12)-Vol.24; Balke, Der Luftkrieg in Europa, II, p.471, , Fl.Pl. Eindhoven, 100%, F, B Ogefr. Erich Stiel, Bf Uffz. Hahme & Bs Ogefr. Alfred Grosse-Hokamp, 15.00,

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Old 21st February 2011, 12:29
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Re: Do217K-1, WNr.4446 of KG2

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The only thing I have for WNr. 4452 is a photo from a Japanese photo compilation 'Warbirds Photo Album #2' on p.118 which shows the front quarter/third of the machine with the WNr. under the cockpit.
Hi Jim,

In this photo the Holzhammer badge is visible? it is identified with the gelbe G in the rudder?

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Old 23rd February 2011, 00:58
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Re: Do217K-1, WNr.4446 of KG2

No, it isn't. Also not identified as 'G'. Then again, I don't think the badge was worn by many of the KG 2 machines at this time, especially those that had the lower 2/3s of the machine painted black. Its entirely possible it was a KG 40 machine. With no specific loss reported for the plane it's hard to tell with any certainty beyond the photo caption. And there's no certainty that the caption is correct unless the location is named, but, if there, it's in Japanese..........
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