Luftwaffenflugzeugführerscheines

[HenFre]

Hello

I am interested in what kind of education the fledgling Luftwaffe pilot had to go through in order to obtain the Luftwaffenflugzeugführerscheines (LF)

I have read the book "Die Flugzeugführer - Ausbildung der Deutchen Luftwaffe 1935 - 1945, Band I, Von der Grundausbildung bis zur Blindflugschule" by Carlsen and Meyer.
This is by all means a great book. It does however not go into great detail on what the pilots curriculum was nor how the education was carried out in practice. So that leads me to my first question: Does there excist a book that goes into greater detail about this initial training?

I have found some references to a paper called: "Die flugzeugführerausbildung A/B" by General Major Rath, and I have found the following:

ZA 3/29
Bd. 3: Flugzeugführerausbildung A/B. Studie von Oberst (?) Rath, o.Dat., Anlagen

Bandnummer 3
Enthält :
Gliederung des Stabes der 1. Fliegerschuldivision;
Gliederung der 1. Fliegerschuldivision, Göppingen;
Gliederung einer Flugzeugführerschule A/B;
Zusammenstellung der Schul-, Übungs- und Prüfungsflüge auf A 2-Flugzeugen;
Übersicht über die Unterrichtsstunden und Fächer des A-Lehrstoffes, des B-Lehrstoffes;
Zusammenstellung der Schul-, Übungs- und Prüfungsflüge auf B 1-Flugzeugen und B 2-Flugzeugen;
Zusammenstellung der Flüge in der Kunst- und Verbandsflugausbildung;
Organisation des Ausbildungsdienstes einer Flugzeugführerschule A/B.;
(Verfasser: [Major und Lehrgangsleiter Weldin]), 6. Dez. 1940, mit Anlagen

Unterlagenart: Sachakte
Benutzungsort: Freiburg

My question regarding this: Is it only possible to obtain this paper by going to Freiburg myself or employing a reseacher to find the paper for me?

And my third an final question (for now ): Is there anyone else in this forum who is interested in this subject and willing to share information?

Thank you for taking the time to read this. Have a nice day

Best regards

Henrik

[Snautzer]

For those who take an interest and have not seen a Luftwaffenflugzeugführerscheines (LF)


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[Snautzer]

Perhaps this is worth reading to. I found it on the net if you cant find it i can post it.

Luftwaffe Technical Training
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[HenFre]

@Snautzer
Thank you for the pictures of the LF.
I have found the "Luftwaffe Technical Training" and it was indeed a very interesting read. In fact it was in that very report that I found the reference to the paper by General Major Rath that I mentioned earlier.

[ghostwriter]

see attached the diagramm of luftwaffe pilot training ...

picture source


greetings

[Marcel van Heijkop]

Hi,

I found the following book useful for a better understanding of the Luftwaffe's training system: "Luftwaffe Fledglings 1935 - 1945: Luftwaffe Training Units & Their Aircraft" by Barry Ketley and Mark Rolfe. Apart from the units and their aircraft (obviously), this book also describes typical pilot/crewmember training and the weaknesses of the Luftwaffe's training system.


HTH,


Marcel

[HenFre]

Originally Posted by Marcel van Heijkop

"Luftwaffe Fledglings 1935 - 1945: Luftwaffe Training Units & Their Aircraft" by Barry Ketley and Mark Rolfe.

@Marcel van Heijkop:
Thank you for the heads up Marcel. I will definitely read this book now that you tell me, that it also contains information about the training. I thought the book only showed facts and pictures of the planes the pilot students flew.

[HenFre]

Originally Posted by ghostwriter

see attached the diagramm of luftwaffe pilot training ...

@ghostwriter:
Thank you for the diagramm. It seems to be very well in line with what I have read about the training program so far. What I would like to do is to open up the box called A/B School and see what inside. What did the pupil learn when flying and what classroom lessons did he get on the ground.

I also enjoyed reading the article in the "Flying" magazine and for most part it seems to have the facts right. At least if it describes the prewar or early war education in the Luftwaffe. One thing that caught my eye though is the following quote: "Casualties at German air force fighter schools are extremely high. In 1940, 27 were killed out of a class of 60 pupils at a typical school." I have not previously read about such a high casulty rate, so I wonder if this number is correct. Does anyone have input on this?

[hucks216]

Hopefully these will help a little bit - taken from various Soldbücher & Wehrpässe of different pilot types:

Part 1

[hucks216]

Pilot types:

Part 2