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Old 23rd July 2023, 13:14
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He60 1R+UH F.Kette Norwegen lost 1/10/41

Hi guys

Can anyone provide any information on the fate of the above, please? Including crew.

Much appreciated in advance.

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Old 23rd July 2023, 13:32
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Re: He60 1R+UH F.Kette Norwegen lost 1/10/41

Reported lost 2 Oct 41 and was Kurierkette Norwegen.Wk Nr 314 Kistinki-Utna the location. Only one crew named which was pilot Gefr Herbert Schwarz who with BF was killed
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Old 23rd July 2023, 14:00
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Re: He60 1R+UH F.Kette Norwegen lost 1/10/41

Many thanks, Chris

Express response!!

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Old 23rd July 2023, 14:47
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Re: He60 1R+UH F.Kette Norwegen lost 1/10/41

The crew was MIA per the loss, the Bf being Uffz. Mathias Cremer.
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Old 23rd July 2023, 15:52
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Re: He60 1R+UH F.Kette Norwegen lost 1/10/41

The crew was killed and are today buried at Norvajärvi/Finnland, Gruft 3, Tafel 1 and 7.

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Old 23rd July 2023, 16:42
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Re: He60 1R+UH F.Kette Norwegen lost 1/10/41

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The crew was killed and are today buried at Norvajärvi/Finnland, Gruft 3, Tafel 1 and 7.

Matti
While trying to pin-point the place I cannot locate Kistinki-Utna at all while Norvajärvi comes up only
as a lake north of Rovaniemi.
Using Valtonen's spelling Kiestingin-Uhtuan didn't help either...ended up at Kestenga....

Sounds like an accident (no combat) and perhaps the aircraft came down in the Lake in question?

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Old 23rd July 2023, 17:14
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Re: He60 1R+UH F.Kette Norwegen lost 1/10/41

Could be it?:

Kiestinki (FIN) (a.k.a. Kesten’ga, Kestenga) (65 53 N – 31 49 E)
General: landing ground (Landeplatz) in N Finland 285 km ESE of Rovaniemi. A forward airstrip improvised at about the time SS-Division Nord and Finnish forces advanced through the area in August 1941 toward Louhi (Loukhi). Rarely mentioned after Jan 42 except for occasional use by courier aircraft.
Operational Units: small elements of IV.(Stuka)/LG 1 (Aug 41 – Jan 42); 13.(Z)/JG 5 (Jan 44).
Station Commands: none identified.
Station Units (on various dates – not complete): none identified.
[Sources: chronologies; BA-MA; NARA; PRO/NA; web site ww2.dk]
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Old 23rd July 2023, 19:16
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Re: He60 1R+UH F.Kette Norwegen lost 1/10/41

Originally the approximate location was reported as Kiestinki - Uhtua area. Today those places are Kestenga and Kalevala in Russian Karelia. According to one source the exact location should be "an island south of Enonjoensuu". My problem is that I have not found this in any maps.

Yes, Norvajärvi is a lake 15 km north of Rovaniemi and at its eastern coast is the biggest cemetery of German soldiers in Finland where 2683 soldiers are buried.

And yes, it was a transfer flight by two just in Finland arrived Fl.Erg.Gr. (See) persons, who possibly lost their way and crashed. They were waiting for the searchers for two weeks. They were completely exhausted when the Finnish troops found them on 16 October 1941, thought those to be Russians and therefore shot themselves to prevent becoming POW.

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Old 23rd July 2023, 19:46
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Re: He60 1R+UH F.Kette Norwegen lost 1/10/41

Thanks Larry and Matti

Google Maps correct for a change...that was an eye opener....

Very interesting extra details Matti.
Thank You for that!!

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Re: He60 1R+UH F.Kette Norwegen lost 1/10/41

Many thanks guys for all contributions.

An incident that had previously escaped my attention.

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