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Old 9th February 2010, 03:59
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Luftwaffe losses in the east 20-30.01.1945

Hello,


I am looking for the details of Luftwaffe losses in the east Germany and Poland from January 20th through 30th 1945.

If anybody can provide this information I would be greatly appreciated.


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Old 9th February 2010, 14:39
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Re: Luftwaffe losses in the east 20-30.01.1945

Arekal, This is a rather sweeping request as there are several thousand during that period. Too many to post here.

Are you looking for something specific for a unit or location? I recommend you refine your search.
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Old 16th February 2010, 22:45
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Re: Luftwaffe losses in the east 20-30.01.1945

Hi!
Thank You for your answer. I’m refining my search. I’m looking for losses air units subordinated to Luftflotte 6 fighting over Pomerania and Wartheland, east from Odra River and West from Wisla River (in WWII: Provinz Pommern – Reichsgau Westpreussen –Reichsgau Wartheland) durning soviet offensive in January 1945.Specially:
Schlachtgeschwader 1 (Stab; II. Gruppe; III. Gruppe)
Schlachtgeschwader 2 (Stab; II. Gruppe; III. Gruppe; 10.(Pz))
Jagdgeschwader 3 (Stab; I. Gruppe)
Jagdgeschwader 4
Jagdgeschwader 6
Jagdgeschwader11 (I. Gruppe)
Jagdgeschwader 51 (I. Gruppe; IV. Gruppe)
Nahaufklärungsgruppe 3
Nahaufklärungsgruppe 4
Nahaufklärungsgruppe 8
Ergänzungs-Aufklärungsgeschwader 1
This is a lot of datas for search and I understand that it is too much, for forum. I hope for helpI’m interresed aboutair combats over after war North-west Poland terrain.
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Old 17th February 2010, 03:06
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Re: Luftwaffe losses in the east 20-30.01.1945

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Arekal, This is a rather sweeping request as there are several thousand during that period. Too many to post here.

Are you looking for something specific for a unit or location? I recommend you refine your search.
Do you mean Luftwaffe lost serveral thousand aircrafts in the East between 20-30.01.1945, a 10 days period?
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Old 17th February 2010, 14:13
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Re: Luftwaffe losses in the east 20-30.01.1945

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Do you mean Luftwaffe lost serveral thousand aircrafts in the East between 20-30.01.1945, a 10 days period?
Perhaps poorly phrased, but over a 1000.
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Old 18th February 2010, 02:54
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Re: Luftwaffe losses in the east 20-30.01.1945

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Perhaps poorly phrased, but over a 1000.
Thanks, still huge losses in such a short period
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Old 18th February 2010, 14:34
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Re: Luftwaffe losses in the east 20-30.01.1945

Hi.

From the GenQu records I have about 750 losses registered for this period, January 20th 1945 through January 30th 1945.

Filtering with regards to your list of units it gives:

Stab/S.G.1 - 1 loss
II./S.G.1 - 10 losses
III./S.G.1 - 1 losses

Stab/S.G.2 - 1 loss
II./S.G.2 - 6 losses
III./S.G.2 - 4 losses
10.(Pz.)/S.G.2 - none registered

Stab/J.G.3 - none registered
I./J.G.3 - 1 loss

Stab/J.G.4 - none registered
I./J.G.4 - 10 losses
II./J.G.4 - 16 losses
II.(Sturm)/J.G.4 - 1 loss
III./J.G.4 - 5 losses
IV./J.G.4 - 6 losses

Stab/J.G.6 - none registered
I./J.G.6 - 9 losses
II./J.G.6 - 20 losses
III./J.G.6 - 10 losses

I./J.G.11 - 11 losses

I./J.G.51 - 7 losses
IV./J.G.51 - 3 losses

N.A.Gr.3 - 2 losses

N.A.Gr.4 - none registered

N.A.Gr.8 - 3 losses

Erg.A.G.1 - 5 losses

All in all 132 registered losses for the given units and period.

There could of course be losses missing from this list due to the fact that some of the loss records for this timespan is lost. (20th through 27th January, January 29th and January 31st).

Would it be of interest to post these losses here and see if anyone has any further to add?

Haven't included losses from other sources than GenQu in the list for now, and further filtering with regard to loss reason and exact location must be done at a later stage.

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Re: Luftwaffe losses in the east 20-30.01.1945

Hello Rémi,

Well, 762 lines, not bad!
I've discovered a new(?) plane in your list:
20 1 45 LF6 14 SG151 H Berlin-staaken FP BA TM BF109F-8 160347 40
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Old 26th February 2010, 00:12
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Re: Luftwaffe losses in the east 20-30.01.1945

ok all stop the slaughter

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Old 26th February 2010, 08:43
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Re: Luftwaffe losses in the east 20-30.01.1945

Hello Rémi,
It's not that bad, I took 204 Bf109s out of your list (Including the Bf109F-8 & maybe a Bf108); But frankly I need a translator, I'm a debutant!
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