Losses IV./KG76

[Reiner]

Hello
Thank you for the answers. 05.05 Ju 88 A-4 0880140069 Near Rugenwalde near Eberswalde 4 killed--there is no Rugenwalde near Eberswalde. It could be Ringenwalde , 25km NW Eberswalde.
Do you also have the names of the crews from these losses:

29.04 Ju 88 A-7 88 4222 15 km. NW Bernau/Mark 4 killed
05.05 Ju 88 A-4 140 069 Bei Rugenwalde bei Eberswalde 4 killed
23.06 Ju 88 A-4 140 382 Marienwerder/Mark 4 killed ?

My Ju88 crash doesn't have to be from IV./KG76, it's just a guess.
Could be Ju88 884222 15km NW Bernau , 15km NE Bernau? 15 km NE Bernau is the crash site.
Greetings, Rene

[Peter Achs]

Originally Posted by Matti Salonen

At WASt in the Luftwaffe Loss Folder 269 there is a NVM, which has the following:


1944-08-01, 3./Fl.ÜG 1 West, Ju 88 A-4, 144609, Osternburg, 3 km südöstlich Oldenburg
Flugzeugführer Uffz Schmietenknop, Georg, +
Bordfunker Obgfr Zörner, Heinz, +
Bordschütze Gefr Baumann, Adolf, +
Absturz infolge Bedienungsfehler. Bruch 100 %.

Matti

NVM clearly says 4609:

[Matti Salonen]

Peter et all,

I am confused. I have written 144609 almost ten years ago when copying data from the NVM into my database, without adding any note that it is in the original document 4609. Therefore, when looking at my computer I sincerely thought it to be 144609.
Anyway, this Ju 88 still could be the 4609 of IV/KG 76.

It is better for me now to retreat to lick my mental wounds and give the arena to others who know better.

Matti

[Peter Achs]

No need to be sad. Nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes. It's just history.

[RT]

With hundred of thousands losses, one , two or ten mistakes is quite normal, stay with us , Matti, the russians will soon load mass of new docs, ,maybe the ones related to 1944..., who knows?

Rémi

[edNorth]

History has bad reputation, often be so wrong.

[Karoband]

Hi Rene,

"29.04 Ju 88 88 4222 15 km. NW Bernau/Mark 4 killed"
F Ogfr. Fraas Erwin
B Fw. Pfitzmann Werner
Bf Gefr. Domzol Johann
Bs Ogfr. Sauer Wolfgang

"05.05 Ju 88 A-4 140 069 Bei Rugenwald bei Eberswalde 4 killed"
F Ogfr. Reifenstein Hans-Dieter
B Ogfr. Hennig Gerhard
Bf Ogfr. Leckow Martin
Bs Fw. Elsner Willi

"23.06 Ju 88 A-4 140 382 Marienwerder/Mark 4 killed"
FL Fw. Hecklau Werner
F Uffz. Flemming Hans
Bf Ogfr. Krammer Hans
Bs Fw. Weissner Franz

I hope this is sufficient to your inquiry.

Jim

[Reiner]

Hi Jim
Thank you very much.
Rene

[Reiner]

Hello
A quick check of the following names at the Volksbund shows the death place Falkenhagen, some km ENE from Fürstenwalde / Spree.

"05.05 Ju 88 A-4 140 069 Bei Rugenwald bei Eberswalde 4 killed"
F Ogfr. Reifenstein Hans-Dieter
B Ogfr. Hennig Gerhard
Bf Ogfr. Leckow Martin
Bs Fw. Elsner Willi


The rank from FF is there "Oberfähnrich".
Rene