501 Sqdn Spitfire vs Ju88 records. Research request.

[Fred Wilson]

501 Sqdn Spitfire losses vs Ju88 loss records?

Research request for:
Spitfire, Mk.Vb AB179 SD-?
Spitfire, Mk.Vb AB251 SD-?
Spitfire, Mk.Vb W3840 SD-?
Spitfire, Mk.Vb BL974 SD-?
Spitfire, Mk.Vb W3894 SD-?

I am NOT an expert at Lufwaffe claims.
I would like to see accuracy in these five 501 Sqdn losses, and the loss included at http://lostaircraft.com for:
Storm's Ju88 (no loss posted there yet) for cross reference purposes.

Secondly, I would like to include the full crew of Storm's Ju88 and pictures of him
- and / or the BF 100s that may have claimed the 4 other RAF 501 Squadron aircraft.

References:
Archived thread here: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/archiv...p?t-16852.html
and http://www.absa3945.com/Pertes%20Bre...finistere.html

I welcome you to dive into the http://lostaircraft.com/database.php and accurately edit these and any other loss records there.

Many are still missing. Work is progressing on these, but again, your assistance is welcomed.

[Nick Beale]

The place to start with Luftwaffe claims is: http://lesliesawyer.com/claims/tonywood.htm

[Chris Goss]

...and to save time, might I suggest including dates?

[udf_00]

http://lesliesawyer.com/claims/tonywood.htm
R.A.F and U.S. Fighter Commands

From RAF Fighter Command. Jan - Dec 1942 :

RAF 10 Group Circus 3
Viaduct MORLAIX
16.30 z: 6 Boston III (Abandoned due weather)
Escort Wing: Ibsley
RAF 10 Gp. 118 Sqn. 12 Spitfire Vb 15.40‑17.05 Circus 3 0 ‑ 1 ‑ 0 Me 109F No casualty L-BS: Morlaix

Claim 25.04.42 Pilot 10 Group 118 Sqn. 0 - 1 - 0 Me 109F off Morlaix

RAF 10 Gp. 501 Sqn. 11 Spitfire Vb 15.40‑16.58 Circus 3 0 - 0 - 0 - 4 Cat.Em 1 Cat.B Fighters L-BS: Morlaix

Cat.Em 25.04.42 F/O A. Palmer‑Tomkinson: kia 10 Group 118 Sqn. Spitfire Vb: W3894 JG 2: off Morlaix
Cat.Em 25.04.42 F/O R. Wheldon: kia 10 Group 118 Sqn. Spitfire Vb: BL974 JG 2: off Morlaix
Cat.Em 25.04.42 Sgt. J.M. Rocovsky: kia 10 Group 118 Sqn. Spitfire Vb: W3840 JG 2: off Morlaix
Cat.Em 25.04.42 Sgt. K. Vrtis: kia 10 Group 118 Sqn. Spitfire Vb: AB251 JG 2: off Morlaix
Cat.B 25.04.42 Sgt. I. Blair: wia 10 Group 118 Sqn. Spitfire Vb: AB179 JG 2: off Morlaix

RAF 13 Group: Interception-Patrol

RAF 13 Gp. 43 Sqn. 1 Hurricane IIc 12.35‑13.55 Interception 1 ‑ 0 ‑ 0 Ju 88 1 Cat.A Return-fire off Acklington

Cat.A 25.04.42 S/Ldr. D. le Roi du Vivier: wia 13 Group 43 Sqn. Hurricane IIc: BN230 FT-A Ju 88: off Acklington

Claim 25.04.42 S/Ldr. D. le R. du Vivier 13 Group 43 Sqn. 1 - 0 - 0 Ju 88 off Acklington

http://www.cieldegloire.fr/jg_002a.php#victoires1942
25.04.42
III./JG 2 claimed 6 spitfires between 16.17 and 16.31, think they were flying Fw 190s.

Seems that Sgt Blair came back.

Only one claim for a Ju 88 by S/Ldr. D. le Roy du Vivier 43 Sqn. Hurricane IIc: BN230 FT-A
http://www.cieldegloire.fr/006_du_vivier.php

[Col Bruggy]

Hello,

Re: Sgt I Blair.

BLAIR, John Sgt RAF 550006 No.501 Sqn. 3/42-4/42.

Known as "Ian". Former Observer in Middle East with No.113 Sqn* in 1940. Awarded the DFM when he managed to fly the Blenheim back after its pilot (41803 P/O John Henry REYNOLDS) had been killed by enemy action. Retrained as pilot and posted to No.501 Sqn. On 25.04.42, his Spitfire was damaged by flak and force-landed near Worth Matravers, Dorset. Hospitalised. Later posted to No.602 Sqn in March 1943. Commissioned (53630) in October 1943 and completed his tour in May 1944. One confirmed victory**, No.602 Sqn, Europe 1944. DFM (No.113 Sqn).

See:
No.501 (County of Gloucester) Squadron 1939-1945 - Hurricane, Spitfire, Tempest.
Watkins,David &Phil Listemann
p.82

* http://113squadron.com/personnel_of_...dron_raf18.htm

Scroll down to Blair.

** 20 February, 1944 -Bf109G destroyed 40m E Duncansby Head. 1800h.

Source: RAF Fighter Command Victory Claims of World War Two - Part Three - 1 July 1943 - 8 May 1945/John Foreman p.80.

Col.

[Chris Goss]

Ian Blair said he was a victim of III/JG 2 as opposed to Flak and crash-landed at Worth Matravers. I also thought he was 501 as opposed to 118 Sqn. I did some reasearch into 25 Apr 42 for Ian and have photos of most of the 501 Sqn casualties.

Curious that Ian's Jan 44 victim gets a mention on the same Board page!