Oblt Grassmann Stab III./KG 51

[Stig Jarlevik]

Perhaps Nick

However your particular ULTRA quote does NOT answer my questions.....

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Stig

[ju55dk]

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik

Thanks Chris

However it begs further questions

a) Was KG 51 alone in doing this?


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Stig

No I have seen this also with KG 4 and KG 26
Junker

[Stig Jarlevik]

Thanks Jörn

So KG 51 was not alone in this.
For how long did it last?
Did it continue, let's say also in the East and/or South?

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Stig

[Laurent Rizzotti]

It seems to me that StG units did the same, having Bf 110 attached to their Stab for recon duties. Wether they used them for recon before or after raids, I don't know.

Bomber units of all sides regularly flew recon flights, so maybe it was just a way to have some aircraft and crew attached directly to the Stab for this purpose. Another possibility was that the aircraft were modified for the recon sorties, or the crew had a special training.

[Nick Beale]

More ULTRA:

CX/JQ/205
6/8/40

53. On 5/8 Air Ministry informed Luftzeuggruppe W France that re-equipment of Stabsstaffeln with cameras to take photographs (Reihenbilder) 30 x 30 cm instead of 18 x 18, had been rejected for the present. (A)

[Stig Jarlevik]

Originally Posted by Nick Beale

More ULTRA:

CX/JQ/205
6/8/40

53. On 5/8 Air Ministry informed Luftzeuggruppe W France that re-equipment of Stabsstaffeln with cameras to take photographs (Reihenbilder) 30 x 30 cm instead of 18 x 18, had been rejected for the present. (A)

And yet Stab III./KG 51 was known as an Aufklärungsschwarm all through September.....

Laurent
Yes I am aware of the StG using the Bf 110s, thanks

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Stig

[Chris Goss]

….a and Do 17s

[Stig Jarlevik]

Ah - yes....
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Stig

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik

And yet Stab III./KG 51 was known as an Aufklärungsschwarm all through September...

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Stig

The way I read that message is that the 13 x 13 cameras were normal equipment in Stabsstaffeln by early August but that the RLM did not want to change over to the 30 x 30 size.

[Stig Jarlevik]

Originally Posted by Nick Beale

The way I read that message is that the 13 x 13 cameras were normal equipment in Stabsstaffeln by early August but that the RLM did not want to change over to the 30 x 30 size.

You mean 18 x 18, or?
These Ju 88 were they the A-5F version?
Otherwise I agree with you Nick. Sloppy reading from my side.....
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Stig