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Rolfeb · #11 18th March 2009, 11:53

Hi Remi,

do you have the losses in 44 as well?
Thanks in advance
Rolf

Andreas Brekken · #12 18th March 2009, 13:48

RT · #13 18th March 2009, 15:59

No more for 1944,

Andreas it costs you lot of time to select all these links ???

H v you anything for me for KG51 ??

Remi

Stig Jarlevik · #14 18th March 2009, 19:58

Thanks Remi (and now Andreas as well!)

Make no mistake, I certainly know the amount of work involved with research

Since I don't have any first hand information I simply check on anomalies when updating, in this instance, Balss work. He has very little details regarding NJG 200, which makes this discussion all the more interesting!!

Again, thanks Guys

Cheers
Stig

Norbert Schuchbauer · #15 19th March 2009, 22:54

Remi,
what do you need for KG 51. Maybe I have some info.

Norbert

Andrey Kuznetsov · #16 20th March 2009, 01:09

Hello!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale

Night fighter units operating mainly in the East may not have suffered so many losses from enemy action. The USSR did not have a big force of Mosquitoes and Beaufighters to hunt them like the RAF did in the West. But even so you would expect regular losses to accidental causes in any flying unit.

In the East Bf110 night fighters were often used on daylight as close support a/c or even as day fighters. With daylight-level losses, I think.

Regards,
Andrey

Nokose · #17 20th March 2009, 23:40

Andrey,
I think that changed in 1943. Lt Josef Kociok 10./ZG1 (later 5./NJG200) was flying the Bf110 at night. He claimed 3 Po-2 46 GNBAP on 31Jul43 at night (but actually shot down 4 Po-2). I believe he also got a TB-3 (or Li-2) of the 7 GAPDD in one night raid in May43.

robert · #18 20th March 2009, 23:48

Hi,

and here some victims of German nightfighters in the night of 20/21/07.43:
- two Pe 8 from 746 AP DD
- one Pe 8 from 890 AP DD
- two B-25 from 12 Gw AP DD
- two IL-4 from 1 Gw AD DD

Source; Awiacija w kurskoj bitwie W.Gorbaczow Eksmo Moscow 2008

Regards

Robert

Juha · #19 21st March 2009, 12:20

Hello Andreas
Thanks a lot for the very interesting info!
One question, is it possible that http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=120842 and http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=120907 are in fact two reports on same accident, Wnros . 880740 and 740, reason engine failure in both cases and damage also same, dates consecutive?

Juha

Andrey Kuznetsov · #20 22nd March 2009, 08:47

Hello!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nokose

Andrey,
I think that changed in 1943. Lt Josef Kociok 10./ZG1 (later 5./NJG200) was flying the Bf110 at night. He claimed 3 Po-2 46 GNBAP on 31Jul43 at night (but actually shot down 4 Po-2). I believe he also got a TB-3 (or Li-2) of the 7 GAPDD in one night raid in May43.

Of course, NJG200 sometimes operated at night too :-) I wrote "often used on daylight", not "solely on daylight".

Regards,
Andrey

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