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Another 97th BG question
Hello,
Another 97 BG question. I have previously asked about MACR 2069 on another forum, but haveing reach a result I have since revisited the question. In the report a serial number is recorded by witnesses as being "42-038". I had looked at this and found it could have been either of 41-24381; 42-3381 or 42-30381. At that time it was concluded it was 41-24381. I am now thinking it must have been 42-30381 because of the "0381" recorded in the report fits , rather than "3381" or "4381". Your thoughts and any alternative answers are welcome. Thanks Alex |
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Re: Another 97th BG question
The Fortlog shows 42-30381 was transferred to the 301st BS, 97th BG right about the time of the mission.
http://www.americanairmuseum.com/aircraft/4372 MACR 2069 shows the serial number several times as 42-0381. I think that 42-30381 is a strong possibility. For some reason the "3" got dropped after the dash. |
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Re: Another 97th BG question
Hello Rolland,
Thanks for the confirmation, in the witness reports the same "0381" is noted, perhaps they only used the four numbers or as you say a possible typo with the "3". Thanks Alex |
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Re: Another 97th BG question
I have listed 42-30381 to be lost on April 3. 1944.
I could not find MACR for it. Crew Johnston, Daniels, Thorp etc. If it is that plane, please send me MACR. |
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Re: Another 97th BG question
MACR 3581 for the loss of 42-30381 appears to be missing on fold3. One of the men captured was Richard L Bernius:
https://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-...pg=1&rid=44429 Another may have been this man, Flanagan: https://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-...95,73089,75745 MACR 2069 for "42-0381" and the loss of two men who bailed out of the plane starts here for those with fold3 access: https://www.fold3.com/image/28688694 Last edited by RSwank; 13th January 2018 at 17:57. |
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Re: Another 97th BG question
Hello Vathra,
Yes MACR 3581 was the 3rd April 1944 reported loss. Crews names were: Daniels, Anthony, Hamilton, Tiller, Johnson, Thorp, Bernius, Davis, Flanagan and Reilly. MACR 2069 was an earlier report for the 6th December 1943. This was Mission 202 to Kalanaki A/D, Athens, Greece. 2Lt. William J. Brown, O-673038 and S/Sgt. Frederick H. Herreilers, 12141321, bailed out over the sea due to a fire on board. Herreilers was recorded as KIA, Brown eventually returned. I have no idea if the name " Little Red Head" was worn by her in the early years or was a later addition ? Alex |
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Re: Another 97th BG question
Thank you, guys.
Bernius and Flanagan were PoWs, I was missing their names. I have Escape statements from other eight crewmen. |
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