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Old 29th October 2018, 16:42
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Which RAF Squadron dropped SOE agent Tazelaar

I hope someone can help me with my question.

I hope someone knows which RAF (Special Duty) squadron dropped the Dutch SOE agents Peter Tazelaar and Lykele Faber in the night of 1/2 November 1944. He jumped out of a Lancaster he told is his book.

Thanks in advance for all your help.

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Old 30th October 2018, 02:04
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Re: Which RAF Squadron dropped SOE agent Tazelaar

Hello,

You had the date right the first time!

APPENDIX 3.

Action Agents Sent to Holland.

Name...........................Codename.......Date Sent.....Role or Region..Fate
P.TAZELAAR...................Necking.....18/19 Nov.1944..Friesland.....Overun (by Allies) late Jan.45.
L. FABER.......................Bobsleigh...18/19 Nov.1944..his W/T.......Overun (by Allies) late April 1945
J.E.L. VAN DE SPIEGLE....Foxtrot......18/19 Nov.1944..tactical W/T.. returned April 1945.

The agent dropped on 1/2 November 1944 was R. BARME (Trapping), Rotterdam region/W/T, arrested 2 Feb., shot 8 March 1945.

See:
SOE in the Low Countries
Foot,M.R.D.
London:St.Ermin's Press,2001,
p.483

Unfortunately, Foot does not identify the aircraft involved in the drop of Tazelaar, Faber and van de Spiegle, nor Barme,

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Old 30th October 2018, 12:19
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Re: Which RAF Squadron dropped SOE agent Tazelaar

The only candidate would be 295 Sqn on Stirlings that flew 9 sorties on the 18/19.11.44 Three successful

Successful Draughts5, Necking1, Sculling7
Not completed Necking2, Podex3, Rummy12, Rummy16, Rummy20, Rummy21

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Old 30th October 2018, 18:46
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Re: Which RAF Squadron dropped SOE agent Tazelaar

Hello,

18/19 Nov 1944
No.295 Sqn/"A" Flight
Stirling IV LK287:8Z-D
Up:2035 Down:0045

Nine aircraft detailed to drop supplies to the Dutch Resistance in N.HOLLAND. Weather was unfavourable, a certain amount of flak was observed but none came close and no damage was sustained, Visibility was very low, and night was dark. All aircraft returned safely.

23 Containers and 3 "Packages" dropped on D.Z. NECKING I*. One hang up on No.3 Station.

* NECKING I - 52 56 03N - 06 02 12E

121073 F/L (Capt/Pilot) John RALPH RAFVR (later DFC, LG: 21/11/44)
139694 F/O (Nav.) G. F. ANDREWS
134717 F/O (B/A) F. G. MALE
174126 F/O (W/Op) O. VIGGARS
1624456 F/Sgt (Gnr.) A. DOVENER
1162209 Sgt (F/E) C.F.MITCHELL

NA AIR 27/2583, pp.927-29 of 1196 & AIR 27/1644, pp.260- of 581

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Old 30th October 2018, 22:44
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Re: Which RAF Squadron dropped SOE agent Tazelaar

I'd never heard of Lancs dropping agents.

Stirlings and Hali's yes, but not Lancs.

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Old 1st November 2018, 19:41
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Re: Which RAF Squadron dropped SOE agent Tazelaar

Thank you everyone for all your great help. Could it be 161 squadron who dropped Tazelaar en Faber in the night of 31oct/1nov. 1944?

Tazelaar told in his book that he jumped out of a Lanc. that night. But I also was very curious if this was correct.
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Old 2nd November 2018, 00:31
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Re: Which RAF Squadron dropped SOE agent Tazelaar

The only SD unit operating on 31st October 1944 was five sorties by 570 Sqn flying Stirlings, none of the sorties was successful

Dudley3 (2 sorties), Draughts5, Criena3, Rummy16

161 Sqn never touched a Lanc during WWII

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Old 2nd November 2018, 00:38
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Re: Which RAF Squadron dropped SOE agent Tazelaar

The only SD unit operating on 31st October 1944 was five sorties by 570 Sqn flying Stirlings, none of the sorties was successful

Dudley3 (2 sorties), Draughts5, Criena3, Rummy16

161 Sqn never touched a Lanc during WWII

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Old 5th November 2018, 22:47
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Re: Which RAF Squadron dropped SOE agent Tazelaar

Hello all,


I might be missing something but Rene alias Mystex asked which aircraft dropped Tazelaar in the night of 1/2 November 1944. The answers given refer to droppings in the night of 18/19 November and SD units operating on 31st October 1944...


According to my info BBO agents Tazelaar and Faber were dropped in Operation Criena 2 by a Stirling of 620 Sqdn.RAF, flown by a F/S Kay. Agent Barme was dropped in the same night during Operation Rummy 21, another Stirling of 620 Sqdn.RAF flown by a F/O Russell. Unless Tazelaar and Faber returned soon to the UK - not likely from the occupied Netherlands - it seems unlikely that both men were dropped again in the night of 18/19 November 1944.


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Old 5th November 2018, 23:43
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Re: Which RAF Squadron dropped SOE agent Tazelaar

I am not as old and past it as I look. He did ask

Thank you everyone for all your great help. Could it be 161 squadron who dropped Tazelaar en Faber in the night of 31oct/1nov. 1944?

Tazelaar told in his book that he jumped out of a Lanc. that night. But I also was very curious if this was correct.
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