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Old 12th October 2005, 13:45
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Serial on Spitfire V(b?) AH-M from 332(N) Sqn 1942?

Testing the water. Anybody that can come up with a serial here? I am modelling AH-M "Litago" from 332 sqn and although I have found pictures of the plane I haven't found the serial...



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Old 13th October 2005, 00:30
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Re: Serial on Spitfire V(b?) AH-M from 332(N) Sqn 1942?

Hello Kyrre,

From Spitfire International :

PV215 - "AH-M" to 332 Sqn in Norway 19/6/45. RNAF "AH-M" from 22/11/45.
Coded "A-BI" AFTER 8/46. Sgt Thunes killed 26/9/50 when a/c f/l nr Bardalgárd.

And also -

PT827 - RAF 23/8/44 ex 340,341 Sqns "AH-M" to 332 Sqn29/4/45. Arrived Norway 19/5/45.
Dived in near Askim 14/6/45 Sgt. Wik killed.

From Spitfire the History :

PV215 - No RNAF service noted, just Dyce 19/6/45.

PT827 - 341 Sqn 21/9/44 E/A CB 29/11/44.

From Photo looks like a kill marking on cockpit door.

So unles there was another my money is on PT827.

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Old 13th October 2005, 10:29
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Re: Serial on Spitfire V(b?) AH-M from 332(N) Sqn 1942?

No, I think the aircraft is earlier than that. The thickness of the yellow rim to the roundel suggests 1941. There might be an M in the squadron listings in Fighter Squadronf of the RAF, but the chance is thin. I'll try to remember to have a look.
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Old 13th October 2005, 14:04
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Re: Serial on Spitfire V(b?) AH-M from 332(N) Sqn 1942?

Spit Vb.AD325.Castle Bromwich-built.Shot down by a FW190 during the Dieppe Raid.The pilot,Olav Djønne,bailed out over the Channel and was rescued.This is the only AH-M Spit Vb that I have identified.Photo is from a series that were taken at Catterick in April 1942.

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Old 13th October 2005, 14:21
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Re: Serial on Spitfire V(b?) AH-M from 332(N) Sqn 1942?

Hello,

Well Done Stein,

She was a "named" Spitfire "Westmorland II" and had previously served with 310, 154 and 312 Squadrons before going to 332 Squadron.
The above from Air Britain AA100-AZ999.

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Re: Serial on Spitfire V(b?) AH-M from 332(N) Sqn 1942?

Hi,

Graham noted right notice about roundel. That (old) type of roundels was valid till 21.5.1942 when changes came into operation. Of course, there was idle period when the new roundels were applied in the Squadrons.

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Re: Serial on Spitfire V(b?) AH-M from 332(N) Sqn 1942?

Many thanks peeps!

As Stein wrote this is definitely a Vb, since it's from a well known series taken in '42. Sorry for not pointing this out properly. The alternative would be a Va. I'm including the rest of the series. Notice that the aircraft has the Vb cannon bulge and Rotol propeller.
This aircraft is definitely called Litago, which is the Norwegian equivalent of "Daisy", a typical cow's name.
One question that I haven't found a proper answer to: What size underwing roundel would this Spit carry, with the picture taken the same month as they started repainting the Spits to the C/C1 combination?













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Old 14th October 2005, 16:22
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Re: Serial on Spitfire V(b?) AH-M from 332(N) Sqn 1942?

Hi,

Great photos.

Now I see the Norwegian Flag , not as suspected a "kill" marking.

Any of the right hand side ?, might show the presentation name if it was indeed AD325 "Westmoreland II".

AH-M could perhaps still be yet another "M"

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Re: Serial on Spitfire V(b?) AH-M from 332(N) Sqn 1942?

Thanks for all the input folks. Because of decal-problems I ended up making Litago as she might have appeared when she was shot down in August '42.
(It's wrong with the AM-antennae I've realised after the pics were taken. The antenna is gone now. ) Oh and Alex, there's a pic of AH-M on the starboard side and the name Litago on that side as well. I don't have that pic I might add.

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Re: Serial on Spitfire V(b?) AH-M from 332(N) Sqn 1942?

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Foundation (or we should say sponsor at the time) inscription should have been in MSG though some photos suggest Sky might have been used as well. White stripes were applied for the operation Rutter in early July 1942 only. They were gone by the time of Dieppe. I am also not sure if they were applied on all the aircraft participating in the former.
Your little beauty is lacking IFF antennas and I am not quite sure if cannon covers were painted with dope. I would expect ordinary black rubber. There is also something wrong with the carburettor inlet.
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Thanks for all the input folks. Because of decal-problems I ended up making Litago as she might have appeared when she was shot down in August '42.
(It's wrong with the AM-antennae I've realised after the pics were taken. The antenna is gone now. ) Oh and Alex, there's a pic of AH-M on the starboard side and the name Litago on that side as well. I don't have that pic I might add.

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