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Old 5th March 2021, 15:17
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Sardinia claims- Johann Pichler- German flak

I am interested in two claims by German forces on Sardinia in June 1943- as usual my information comes from “Mediterranean Air War: Vol 4.

The first is a claim of a P-38 by Oberfeldwebel Johann Pichler on 24 June East of Montresta.

The second is a 22 July 1943 German Flak claim of two P-40s at Siliqua.

If anyone has further information on either of these claims, or recommended sources, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Old 5th March 2021, 17:04
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Re: Sardinia claims- Johann Pichler- German flak

Can you please explain why you're so interested in these claims ?

As you can see in MOW4 book, the air battles over Sardinia in summer 1943 see heavy overclaiming:
On 24 June 1943: 20 Axis claims, 5 P-38 losses
On 22 July 1943: 12 Axis claims, 2 P-40 losses
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Can you please explain why you're so interested in these claims?
And are you interested in the Germans who claimed or in the Allied aircraft brought down?
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Re: Sardinia claims- Johann Pichler- German flak

Interested in the allied aircraft shot down. Namely three pilots, Conn (P-38 24 June) and Boone and Miller from July.

Statements I have encountered about Conn's loss was that it was likely shot down over land, and if that is true, it was the only such American P-38 loss over land on that day. Similarly Pichler's claim is the only one that lists a location definitely over land, the rest are either over water or at best, in close vicinity to water. I am trying to learn more about Pichler's claim if possible.

The July is more speculative considering the large number of P-40s claimed by Italian fighters. However, Boone and Miller were last seen taking evasive action in flak and two P-40s were claimed by German flak. Then again the pilots could have easily escaped the flak and been shot down elsewhere.

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Interested in the allied aircraft shot down. Namely three pilots, Conn (P-38 24 June) and Boone and Miller from July.

Hope that helps.
Thanks. In that case, this thread belongs in the Allied Air Forces forum.
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