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Old 13th May 2005, 08:00
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Question about french losses 11 and 14 june 1940

Hi,

I am still researching German claims in Battle in France and I have more accidents to ask:
- on 11.06.40 at 11.40,11.55 and 12.03 pilots from JG53 claimed 3 MB-152 fighters shot down
- on 11.06.40 at 11.55 and 12.10 pilots from JG53 claimed 3 MS-406 fighters shot down
- on 14.06.40 at 14.30 pilots from I/JG1 claimed 2 Potez 63 and one Br.690 (GBA I/51?) shot down
- on 14.06.40 at 18.45 pilot from JG3 claimed one Potez 63 brought down
- on 14.06.40 at 16.45 pilot from JG27 claimed one Potez 63 shot down

Could somebody provide me with some details (unit, pilot etc.) of this french planes?

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Old 16th May 2005, 11:35
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Cool Re: Question about french losses 11 and 14 june 1940

For june 11 :

GC II/9 Bloch 152 n°516 (Lt Pascal) downed by Me 109
Bloch 152 n°695 (S/Lt Ponnau)
Both crashed near Reims

GC I/6 MS 406 n°821 downed 10 km north Reims (Loivre) pilot POW (Cpt Lefoyer)
MS 406 n°1030 (Sgt Standera) landed badly damaged

For june 14 :

GBA II/51
Breguet 693 downed on Bricy AF by Me109 / Pilot Cpt Nicot
Breguet 693 n°80, crashed on Nantes-Bouguenais / Pilot S/Lt Dutertre

GAR I/14
Potez 63 n°604 downed near Buchères (Aube), 6 km SE from Troyes. 14 h PM
GAR II/22
Potez 63 n°716 downed near Troyes ? Crew POW.

Sure german pilots asked for too much claims !

All info coming from "Invisibles vainqueurs" from Paul Martin.

Hope this could helps.
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Old 16th May 2005, 12:30
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Re: Question about french losses 11 and 14 june 1940

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Originally Posted by Stephane Muret
For june 14 :

GBA II/51
Breguet 693 n°80, crashed on Nantes-Bouguenais / Pilot S/Lt Dutertre
Hello

Actually, Breguet 693 n° 80 crashed near Bercenay-le-Hayer (Aube), shot down by Bf 109E of I./JG 1. Precisions are given in the letter of a reader, Aéro Journal n° 28.
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Old 16th May 2005, 14:54
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Re: Question about french losses 11 and 14 june 1940

Hello, once again

There's additionnal losses for june 11th

GC II/9 (MB.152) & GC I/6 (MS.406 + 1 D.520), fight with Bf 109E near Epernay

MB.152 n° 264 "63", lieutenant Pascal shot down, killed
MB.152 n° 311?, sous-lieutenant Ponnau baled out, wounded
MB.152 n° 266 "47", sergent Daunizeau safe, damaged, landed near Chalons.

MS.406 n° 821, capitaine Lefoyer baled out, wounded
MS.406, sergent Kucera (CZ) shot down, returned
MS.406, sergent Horsky (CZ) shot down, returned
MS.406 n° 431, sergent Standera (CZ) injured, force landed near Connantre due to a lack of fuel.
D.520 n° 49, capitaine de Rivals-Mazères shot down near Epernay, wounded

Le Morane Saulnier MS 406, LELA Presse
Le Bloch MB.152, Serge Joanne, LELA Presse
Aéro Journal n° 23 & 38
Aéro Journal Special Issue n° 8 : Le Dewoitine D.520

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Old 16th May 2005, 16:39
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Re: Question about french losses 11 and 14 june 1940

Stephane and Stephane,

many many thanks to you. You are great!


Warm regards

Robert
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