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Old 16th February 2014, 17:15
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Seeking for information about a FW 190 crashed o 17-8-1943 i Lummen, Belgium

We found the crashplace of a FW190 in Lummen, Belgium. Location: 51.00.44.96 N, 5.10.41.06 E. Date 17 August 1943. We found some parts with numbers on it.
Engine: BMW 601 D2. Number found on the engine: 307214
Tailweel: WN 12236.
Landinggear: UTWN 22689
Propellorblade: 12153270
20mm MGFF Canon: NR 15494 - FL 49700
20mm MG151 canon: 1941. 15753PH - 20°03 - Lauf: NR 83814.

We are looking for the Worknumber of this plane and the pilot who flew it.
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Old 16th February 2014, 21:25
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Re: Seeking for information about a FW 190 crashed o 17-8-1943 i Lummen, Belgium

Hello Rudy, (I presume this is your name, nothing related with Rudi Simons by the way ?)

Well, if you are sure about the date, FW 190 A-5 WNr. 151243, black 22, of 5./JG 26 should be a candidate, depending of the pilot's fate. In this case, he survived. The aircraft was hit by B-17's gunners.

Its pilot, Uffz. Heinz GOMANN, was especially lucky that day as his chute was caught by the tail of his aircraft; he was fred by chance just before hitting the soil. Albeit wounded, he survived the war.

In the past, someone here has quoted also a German fighter lost near Beverloo that day ("Genemer"). I am wondering if this is the same spot or a different one.

Be aware of the Flemish rules concerning (aircraft) digs.

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Old 16th February 2014, 21:38
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Re: Seeking for information about a FW 190 crashed o 17-8-1943 i Lummen, Belgium

Rudy,
I have a crash of a Fw 190 on 43-08-17 near Leuven. Pilot was Lt. Hans Feustel of 2./JG 1. He died on 43-08-21
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Old 16th February 2014, 21:48
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Re: Seeking for information about a FW 190 crashed o 17-8-1943 i Lummen, Belgium

Feustel crashed 10 km South of Leuven.
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Old 17th February 2014, 10:10
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Exclamation Re: Seeking for information about a FW 190 crashed o 17-8-1943 i Lummen, Belgium

Gents ,

H have a crash off a FW-190 that day at a place called " De zwarte Beek " in de hamlet of Gesten , Lummen.Unfortenally i have no details on the a/c.
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Old 17th February 2014, 11:29
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Re: Seeking for information about a FW 190 crashed o 17-8-1943 i Lummen, Belgium

17 Aug 1943 : Schweinfurt-Regensburg
One another probable :
Fw Bodo Nette
3./JG 1
Bailed out, wounded
Fw 190A-5/U8, 840131, Yellow 14, 100%
Combat with 4-eng, crashed near Saint-Trond (Sint-Truiden)
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Old 17th February 2014, 16:07
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Re: Seeking for information about a FW 190 crashed o 17-8-1943 i Lummen, Belgium

Thank you all for the information!!!
I enclose a map with the crashplaces of the mentioned pilots.
The "unknown" marking is the FW190 I'm looking for.
Till now it was always a guess who was the pilot and the exact aircraft.
I thougt that de partnumbers I gave could give us some help...
These parts were digged up 30 years ago and at that time there were no rules...
Many parts are still on the crashplace...
The only hope I have is to know for sure what aircraft crashed over there...
I would enclose a map with the crashplaces of the mentioned pilots but it doesn't work... They ask to give an URL for the image so I can't select an image from my PC...

Rudy
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Old 17th February 2014, 18:34
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Re: Seeking for information about a FW 190 crashed o 17-8-1943 i Lummen, Belgium

Thanks to all of you for your help!
It's all very interesting information but after a research of 30 years I try to find out what the exact plane and pilot was.
I thought maybe the numbers a gave above could help.
I tried to place a map over here with the crashplaces from the German airplanes shot down around the crasplace I found. But when I select the icon "Insert image" they ask me for an URL so I can't upload a picture from my computer.
Anyone an idea how I can do this?
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Old 17th February 2014, 19:00
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Re: Seeking for information about a FW 190 crashed o 17-8-1943 i Lummen, Belgium

Hi ClinA-78
WNr.151243, black 22 is this the correct WNr.
It don't fit in to me know blocks.
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Old 17th February 2014, 19:18
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Seeking for information about a FW 190 crashed on 17-8-1943 in Lummen, Belgium

Hello gogh

I am almost certain that this aircraft was Fw 190 A-5 "Black 22" (W.Nr. 0150 1243) and part of the 0150 1040 – 0150 1488 werknummer block built by Focke-Wulf from January 1943 through August 1943. I hope this helps.

Horrido!

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