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Old 26th March 2020, 12:55
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Photo Sopwith

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Sopwith 1 1/2 Struuter in french service at:


https://www.ebay.it/itm/photo-ww1-so...sAAOSw0~5ed5q3


and:


https://www.ebay.it/itm/photo-ww1-so...wAAOSwq29ed5pv


A possible serial 344 on the second photo?



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Old 26th March 2020, 15:10
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Re: Photo Sopwith

Could be Clint

However with over 4000 Sopwith 1A2 and 1B1/2 built in France there could be one more digit not visible.

Again the photos are pretty indifferent and it is impossible to say which unit they served with. At least the BR 123 used Sopwiths in their earlier life....

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Old 11th April 2020, 19:50
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Re: Photo Sopwith

Hello,


On ebay a nice photo of a Sopwith 1F.1 Camel with a 180 hp Clerget Engine as tested by France:


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/2-PHOTOS-NIE...UAAOSwKqlbnUBX


also shown according to the seller a Nieuport Parasol which appears to bear british roundels. Anyone know more about this machine?



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Old 12th April 2020, 16:48
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Re: Photo Sopwith

Clint

While the Camel as you say was used by Clerget for various engine tests the Nieuport monoplane fighter prototype is more shady.

Late in the war (well from mid 1917 or so), the company tried its best to renew their designs and even drop the biplane formula and try the monoplane shape.
There are various photos of one (or two) airplanes built from late 1917 to early/mid 1918. They all conform to the same monoplane shape with mostly different landing gear and tail configurations. For all I can say, it could actually be one and the same airframe rebuilt over and over again.

They (it?) never received any type number which to me indicate that maybe Nieuport itself was not very interested in switching to monoplanes. Since they continued with their biplane designs and was given large orders for their Nieuport-Delage 29 model, I would say were quite correct!

Checking my sources, they are very reluctant to give anything away, and most seems to repeat what Jean Noel stated som 50 years ago....first aircraft being under construction in October 1917 and the idea being abandoned in May 1918. They all show two-three photos, this one being one of them.

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Old 12th April 2020, 16:59
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Re: Photo Sopwith

Hi Stig,


Thanks for the reply. Your reply contains I think all that seems to be known about this Nieuport Monoplane (the name given in Davilla and Soltan).TBH I was hoping something might have turned up since that was published - though admittedly I wasn't optimistic. The seller of that item has a number of other (to my mind overly pricey) examples of prototype French aircraft. Perhaps all were taken at the C.R.P.


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Old 14th April 2020, 11:34
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Re: Photo Sopwith

Hello,


A further photo of a Sopwith 1A2 9413 is currently on ebay at:


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/photo-britis...MAAOSwZ-RelHWB


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Old 10th May 2020, 10:17
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Re: Photo Sopwith

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a line up of Sopwith 7F.1 Snipes of 43 Squadron at:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/GROUP-of-SO...wAAOSwf1Retkvb


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Old 14th May 2020, 20:58
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Re: Photo Sopwith

Hello,


Like the previous post also from 43 Squadron Sopwith 1.5 Strutter A1073 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...674c%7Ciid%3A1


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Old 14th May 2020, 21:31
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Re: Photo Sopwith

You must have given the wrong tag here Clint

No Sopwith as far as I can see

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Old 14th May 2020, 21:37
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Re: Photo Sopwith

Hi Stig,


Thanks once again. I suppose I could say its hidden by the LVG, but probably just easier to post the correct link, which I've now done.


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