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Old 1st October 2009, 20:37
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

At my last stay at NA, I scanned (with a camera) following files
AIR40/2687 and AIR40/2697, both mentioned at Nick Beales page: http://www.ghostbombers.com/various/...tra_3.html#top

I have organized each of them as a singel pdf. file.

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Old 3rd October 2009, 06:56
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

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At my last stay at NA, I scanned (with a camera) following files
AIR40/2687 and AIR40/2697, both mentioned at Nick Beales page: http://www.ghostbombers.com/various/...tra_3.html#top

I have organized each of them as a singel pdf. file.

Anyone care for a copy?

Olve Dybvig
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If there are Me 262's on it, I'd LOVE to see it.
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Old 4th October 2009, 00:31
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

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At my last stay at NA, I scanned (with a camera) following files
AIR40/2687 and AIR40/2697, both mentioned at Nick Beales page: http://www.ghostbombers.com/various/...tra_3.html#top

I have organized each of them as a singel pdf. file.

Anyone care for a copy?

Olve Dybvig
www.luftwaffe.no
Hi Olve,

I'm interested in a copy, see PM.

Regards,

Marcel
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Hi Olve,

I'm interested in a copy, see PM.

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At my last stay at NA, I scanned (with a camera) following files
AIR40/2687 and AIR40/2697, both mentioned at Nick Beales page: http://www.ghostbombers.com/various/...tra_3.html#top

I have organized each of them as a singel pdf. file.

Anyone care for a copy?

Olve Dybvig
www.luftwaffe.no
I downloaded 2687 last night and did a bit of browsing in the document this morning. IMHO it is one of the most valuable documents on the last six month of the Luftwaffe I have seen for years, and it could lead to scores of posts and re-writing of old ones. Just to give one example: The NJGs are ordered to transfer a number of crews to JGs "in order to provide navigational assistance" on 4 December 1944, I wonder what bells were ringing in the allied intel community. Events, which have been discussed as possible myths are now confirmed. I can only recommend that you take Olve up on his kind offer.
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Old 5th October 2009, 14:13
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

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At my last stay at NA, I scanned (with a camera) following files
AIR40/2687 and AIR40/2697, both mentioned at Nick Beales page: http://www.ghostbombers.com/various/...tra_3.html#top

I have organized each of them as a singel pdf. file.

Anyone care for a copy?

Olve Dybvig
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Me too please Olve... please check your PM inbox

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Old 7th October 2009, 04:20
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

The last months of the Luftwaffe are a chasm of lack of knowledge. So, yes, I would also like a copy of your material, Olve. And, thank you for making this material available to us.
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Old 11th November 2009, 19:03
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

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At my last stay at NA, I scanned (with a camera) following files
AIR40/2687 and AIR40/2697, both mentioned at Nick Beales page: http://www.ghostbombers.com/various/...tra_3.html#top

I have organized each of them as a singel pdf. file.

Anyone care for a copy?

Olve Dybvig
www.luftwaffe.no
Hello Olve, I would be grateful, if you could send me a copy too?
I focus on Luftwaffe-sorties on the Remagen-bridgehead and assume this period must be covered.

Thanks for your support in advance!
Mario
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

I thought it might be useful to show other forum members a sample page of what the HW5 material looks like.

This is the cover and Page 1 of the Italy and Africa section of 4 November 41.

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Old 19th September 2009, 14:55
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

Thanks for posting the two HW5 samples, Andreas. With the sole exception of Oblt. FUMKE and his unidentified Gruppe en-route to Vitebsk, all of the other intercepts in those two pages are exactly the sort of signals that were sent by Bletchley Hut 3 to the field commands and are currently in those 143 rolls of microfilm that I mentioned earlier. In fact, several of them looked familiar. I don't know which HW series currently incorporates those 50,000+ signals to the field commands, but evidently they replicate many of the HW5 signals. As the stream of daily decrypts made its way through Hut 3, the RAF officer intelligence analysts would mark those messages having tactical value for immediate retransmission to the commands in the field and off they went using the RAF's special key that employed some double encryption. For example, every X. Fliegerkorps daily report that was intercepted was among those forwarded to Middle East Command and one or two others in the Mediterranean.

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