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Old 8th February 2019, 16:18
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June 28, 1943 JG2 vs B-17's (St.Nazaire)
Please can anybody help me with locating a narrative of the action between JG2 and a force of B-17's attacking St Nazaire. I am also interested in claims and losses and believe that more than 10 pilots of JG2 made claims that day. Thank you for any help.
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Old 8th February 2019, 16:35
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Re: June 28, 1943 JG2 vs B-17's (St.Nazaire)
Do you know this site?
https://web.archive.org/web/20130930...4_1943_pdf.zip
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Old 8th February 2019, 16:36
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Re: June 28, 1943 JG2 vs B-17's (St.Nazaire)
28. June 1943
U.S. VIII Bomber Command: SAINT NAZAIRE & BEAUMONT-le-ROGER
28.06.43 Fw. Karl-Heinz Munsche 9./JG 2 B-17 �� 3868/ 14 West: 7.000 m. 17.10 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr. -
28.06.43 Ltn. Josef Wurmheller 9./JG 2 B-17 �� 3875/ 14 West: 7.000 m. 17.10 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr. -
28.06.43 Uffz. Erich Swat 9./JG 2 B-17 �� 3712/ 14 West: 7.000 m. 17.11 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr. -
28.06.43 Fw. Herbert Glassl 9./JG 2 B-17 �� 3877/ 14 West: 7.000 m. 17.14 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr. -
28.06.43 Oblt. Ottfried Philipp 7./JG 2 B-17 �� 4866/ 14 West: 500 m. 17.17 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.163
28.06.43 Fw. Helmut Schrön 7./JG 2 B-17 �� 4866/ 14 West: 500 m. 17.17 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.163
28.06.43 Ltn. Bruno Eder 9./JG 2 B-17 �� 4865/ 15 West: 7.000 m. 17.31 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr. -
28.06.43 Fw. Wilhelm Kopp 9./JG 2 B-17 �� 4865/ 15 West: 7.000 m. 17.31 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr. -
28.06.43 Oblt. Ansel 8./JG 2 B-17 �� 6836/ 15 West: 2.000 m. 17.55 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.188
28.06.43 Fw. Walter Ebert 8./JG 2 B-17 �� 6836/ 15 West: 2.000 m. 17.55 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.188
28.06.43 Fw. Otto Müller 8./JG 2 B-17 �� 6832/ 15 West: 2.000 m. 17.58 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.189
28.06.43 Ofw. Friedrich May 8./JG 2 B-17 �� 6832/ 15 West: 2.000 m. 17.58 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.189
28.06.43 Fw. Kurt Knappe 1./JG 2 B-17 �� 604 / 15 West: 50 m. 19.03 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.164
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Old 8th February 2019, 18:08
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Re: June 28, 1943 JG2 vs B-17's (St.Nazaire)
Hello Black6,

have a look to the thread "7/jg2 june 1943" (alicand from 6 Feb 2019).

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Old 9th February 2019, 18:08
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Re: June 28, 1943 JG2 vs B-17's (St.Nazaire)
thank you Gentlemen !
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Old 9th February 2019, 18:11
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Re: June 28, 1943 JG2 vs B-17's (St.Nazaire)
Did the 8th USAAF actually lose that many B-17's attacking St Nazaire ?
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Old 9th February 2019, 20:38
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Re: June 28, 1943 JG2 vs B-17's (St.Nazaire)
Hello Black6,

according to the 8th USAAF Target Summary on 28 June 1943 158 B-17 attacked locks and submarine-pens at Saint-Nazaire between 1655 to 1725 hrs.
The III./JG 2 claimed 9 B-17 (compare post #7 in the thread "7/jg2 june 1943"). In the Tony Wood list 4 of the 13 B-17 claims are double.
The 1717 hrs claim was assigned to Oblt Philipp, the 1731 claim to Lt Eder, the 1755 claim to Ofw Ebert and the 1758 claim to Ofw May.
Source: JFV Vol. 10/IV.

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Old 10th February 2019, 13:58
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Re: June 28, 1943 JG2 vs B-17's (St.Nazaire)
thank you Leo, do you know how many B-17's actually went down.
Peter
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Re: June 28, 1943 JG2 vs B-17's (St.Nazaire)
Hello Peter,

in the USAAF chronology http://paul.rutgers.edu/~mcgrew/wwii/usaf/html/ for Monday, 28 June 1943 under VIII Bomber Command Mission Number 69 is the entry „… we lose 8 B-17's and 57 others are damaged; casualties are 3 KIA, 14 WIA and 50 MIA“.

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Thank you Leo.
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