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Re: Kettling
Not much. Chris, are you going to cover the Polish Campaign as well?
Lt. Helmut Lent, pilot, in October 1940 to II.NJG 1 1939 with I/ZG76 one kill in Poland with Bofu Kubisch. Oblt. Gerhard Böhmel, pilot, went to Stab NJG 1, KIA 28-2-1942 1939 with I/ZG76 one kill in Poland |
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Re: Aircrew from I/ZG 76
Marcel-Thanks. Ul Kettling is a personal friend and has never mentioned being part of 3/NJG 1 but I will be speaking to him tonight (65th anniversary of his shooting down) and will ask him.
The 2/NJG 1 names are not familiar to me in respect of I/ZG 76. The only christian name I can add is Fritz Stolper (BF to Kettling before Hansen) who was killed in Nov 43. I will look tonight for extra information for you |
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Re: Aircrew from I/ZG 76
Franek: I have all of the I/ZG 76 kills in Sep 39 plus their losses. I have 4 logbooks from this time as well. Anything I ncan help with/you help me with?
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Re: Aircrew from I/ZG 76
Hello Chris,
We certainly could open a chat connection! Now I understand why you were so convinced that Kettling was not in the Nachtjagd! There are two possible explanations for this: Herr Kettling was only with the 3/NJG 1 for a very short time (this short time may have faded from his memory as it would have been with me after some years). Another theory: somehow he shows up in an inventory of 3/NJG 1 pilots but before this posting became official, he and other comrades from I.ZG 76 continued to fight in their Zerstoerer unit. I have my doubts about that: some of the listed names have been in the 3/NJG 1 before this Staffel was renamed in 4/NJG 1. What ever may come out about your conversation with Kettling, tomorrow I will send you a scan of the relevant page from this I.NJG 1 history with all those names. A revealing and interesting thread! It helps me to understand the origins about 'my' I.NJG 1 for a great deal. Best wishes, Marcel
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airfield Venlo in WW-2, I./NJG 1, He219-project |
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Re: Huchel
Hello Chris,
I found out that Huchel was succeeded by Hptm. Ruppel as "Major beim Stabe". The date was in February 1941 because Ruppel stayed with the II.NJG 1 until 1th November 1941 when from the 4./NJG 1 of this Gruppe a new unit was created: II.NJG 2 (in November 1942 renamed in IV.NJG 1). I will keep on searching! Marcel
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airfield Venlo in WW-2, I./NJG 1, He219-project |
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Re: Aircrew from I/ZG 76
Chris
I am most interested in any accounts and photos. I can help with the Polish accounts and photos, there is a number of them. I am awared of existence of a report concerning Nagel's loss but I do not have a copy. |
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Re: Aircrew from I/ZG 76
Marcel
Ul Kettling was never posted to 3/NJG 3 and found it quite amusing to be told he was on a night fighter unit! 1/ZG 76's number was 53591 so any NJG 1 casualties that have this number was with them. Of your list: Schlecht-his name appears on a letter written by the whole Staffel to Kettling Winter 1940-41 Seifert-nothing Mosel-+ 9 sep 40 Hoffmann-christian name Horst Lorey-Nothing apart from he was Karl Nr 53591/20 Nothing else on the others |
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Re: Aircrew from I/ZG 76
Franek: I have 9 kills for I/ZG 76 on 2 Sep 40 (all PZL P11), 9 on 5 Sep (4 x PZL P23, 2 x PZL P11, 2 x PWS 26 & Lublin R13), 3 on 6 Sep (all PZL P11), 8 on 9 Sep (all PZL P11) and 2 on 11 Sep (PZL P23 & PWS 26). The only losses I have were Oblt Christoph Nagel and Gefr Ernst Lochbaum (latter +), Uffz Helmuth Muetschele & Gefr Kurt Blum (latter +) and Lt Gerhard Boehmel (and presumably Uffz Enno Gruschwitz) on 2 Sep. The combat was in the Lodz area and Lochbaum buried initially 5 km south of Pabianice
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Re: Aircrew from I/ZG 76
Chris
I have to do some digging and checking but here are few comments, mostly from memory. Quote:
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I think there were more I/ZG76 - I have to check my records. |
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Re: Aircrew from I/ZG 76
Franek: I would be most interested to contact this man. The claims on 2 Sep 39 were 1000-1005; 1615-1625 & 1700-1710. I have a note that AM 2 Sep, they escorted KG 4 to attack 3 airfields near Deblin and destroyed 11 ac on the ground. PM they mixed it over Lodz and lost the 3 ac. The 3/ZG 76 logbook I have states 1448 - 1737 north of Deblin whilst the 1/ZG 76 logbook states 1623-1755 Lodz
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