Strange Me 210 WNr.

[Csaba B. Stenge]

Gentlemen,

I have a strange Me 210 WNr. in a Generalquartiermeister document, which must be a typo. It is a 6 digit number, starts with 110.
There was a longer, 10 digit block with central 011 numbers (xxx 011 xxxx), but I guess, it is not a 011 instead of the 110 since that should be at least 7 digit, then (with the missed first three).

Have you found any similar Me 210 Werk-Nr.?

Thanks,

[RT]

Pls exhibit the full figure..

Rémi

[RT]

On BAMA III/2 N.684 Where the commercial affairs between Germany nd Hungary are treated you could find a transfer of 3 ME210,
2100110032
2100110093
2100316022

in autumn 44

110+++ is known

316+++ is known as C-1 ,we hv 316002, 316019,316003, possibly 316188

rémi

[Csaba B. Stenge]

It was the 110243 but in this case not the last three digit is the interesting, but the first ones.

Read, what I wrote above: the 210xxxxxxx block was not used without the other parts, so no 110xxx block.

The 210xxxxxxx block was used in the full range and was partitioned in this way:
210 xxx xxxx

without 210 is 011 xxxx in this way not 11xxxx.
The 150 block was used with 6 digits as 150xxx

It is from 1945, another story.
Just ending my Hungarian Me 210 fast bomber manuscript (it contains many unpublished Me 210 materials). A Zerstörer fan pressured me to write an English summary and photo captions in the book - perhaps it would be the best way.

[RT]

Have you found any similar Me 210 Werk-Nr.?

Yes

110259+110263/SO+MC Found in Sicilia in 1943 man. date march 1943,
110210+110221 lost with F122, Seems possible that first serie was 2100000 ending to 2100198 then all the 2xx nd there is a lot were issue from 1102xx Block

So pretty consistent with the 110243, further the block 150xxx is just in the low numbers 150038 to 150098


rémi

[George Hopp]

A long, long time ago, I read of the organization of W.Nrs. into 3 parts: The first 3 numbers were the aircraft type, the 2nd two numbers were the model number (if I remember correctly), and the third set of numbers were the basic serial number of the aircraft. The Me 210s you mention would appear to fit into this category: eg. 210.01.10032. Later, I notice that Me 410s had just the first and third groups of numbers on their fins, so 41010016, an early Me 410, which was found by the Allies at war's end with that number on its fin.

But, the 10,000 series of W.Nrs. is in the Me 410 range, not the Me 210 range, so I just can't give a definitive answer to your problem.

A lot of problems go back to the fiddling with Me 210 numbers when they were re-engineered with the longer tail. And, Mtt always considered the Me 410A to be a Me 210 conversion, because it still contained parts of the Me 210 that had been put into storage when Me 210 production was suspended. Still in 1943 I have seen Mtt production comments stating that Me 210s built because the Me 410s weren't (lack of DB 603s?) were to be counted as Me 410 production. But no W.Nrs. mentioned. So, this whole thing can be very confusing.

All the best,
George

PS. It was Me 410 10259, and not 110259, that accidently landed at Monte Corvino airfield on 27 Nov 43, and was captured. But, there was also an Me 210 259 that received 10% damage due to a "technical failure," on 17 Jun 43.

[George Hopp]

I just noticed a letter from Nick Beale of some time ago in which he listed several captured Me 210/410s.

For 018 the Me 410 A-1/U1 now in the Smithsonian, he notes the breakdown of the serial as 210 0110 018.

On BAMA III/2 N.684 Where the commercial affairs between Germany nd Hungary are treated you could find a transfer of 3 ME210,
2100110032
2100110093
2100316022

Looking at the first of RT's numbers, the following is in the latest Petrick book on the 210/410: 2100110032 on 12 Dec 42; 032 in 21 Feb 44; and, 110032 in March 1945 when it says it was sent to Hungary.

So, what is the correct way to parse (separate) the numbers? I become less certain every day.