Oblt Kurt Dahlmann III/KG 30

[byron-]

Chris,

i have for Staffel 8, St.Kpt. Hptm. Hajo Hermann in April and Mai 1941. Did Oblt. Schlockermann replace him and when exactly?

for Staffel 8, St.Kpt. Hptm. Alfred Neumann (+) 19.04.41 and replaced by Oblt. Helmut Weinrich. When exactly Hptm. Metzenthin took over?

Do you know the St.Kpt. of Staffel 9 during the greek campaign?

I am interested on your new book, please let me know when ready

[Chris Goss]

Byron: Going off piste here a bit but:

Hptm Erich Bloedorn to 19 May 40, Hptm Heinz Rabe to 26 May 40, Herrmann was 7 Staffel, injured 18 Oct and Podbielski took command until 27 Oct

8 was Hptm Walter Storp to 3 Jun 40, then Oblt Peter Gruner to 16 Jun 40, then Oblt Rudolt Meissner to 26 Aug 40, Hptm Waldemar von Glasow to 12 Oct 40, Oblt Dietrich Marwitz to 27 Oct 40 then (probably) Neumann then probably Metzenthin

9 was Hptm Martin Schumann to 24 May 40, Hptm Kurt Rohloff until 8 Jul, then Podbielski until 28 Jul, Oblt Hans Geissler until 1 Aug 40(?), then Oblt Friedrich Rinck until 27 Jan 41

I was in touch with a crewman from 8/KG 30 from Jun-Nov 41 who said that his St Kap was Metzenthin, Weinreich was one of the pilots in 7/KG 30 (who I have became St Kap 7/KG 30 late 41-42)

[byron-]

Thank you Chris

[Doug Stankey]

This is quite a gaggle of characters. Here is some of what we have about these guys. I have heavily edited the lengthier write-ups to reduce bulk.


BLOEDORN, Erich. (DOB: 06.07.02 in Mühlhausen/Thüringen). …… c. 02.11.40 Maj., appt Kommodore KG 30 (to 05.43). 01.09.42 promo to Obstlt. 02.09.42 Maj., awarded DKG, Kommodore KG 30 (to 11.04.43). 12.04.43 trf from KG 30 and assigned to the staff of GFM Kesselring/Luftflotte 2 (to 09.44?). ……

GEISSLER, Hans – we have nothing on this guy.

GLASOW, Waldemar von. (DOB: 28.07.09). …. 01.07.40 trf to I./KG 40. 12.10.40 Hptm. and Staka 8./KG 4, MIA after collision with a balloon cable; crashed into the sea 3 km SW of Landguard Point. ….

GRÜNER, Peter. …. 16.06.40 Oblt. in 8./KG 4, KIA crashed during a ferry flight, apparently due to engine failure.

MARWITZ, Dietrich. 31.05.40 Oblt. in 8./KG 4, WIA –shot up by AA fire and fighters. 01.07.41 promo to Hptm.

MEISSNER, Rudolf – we have nothing on this guy.

METZENTHIN, Gerhard. 01.11.39 Oblt., trf from FFS Neuburg/Donau to I./KG 30. 01.11.40 Oblt., appt Staka 2./Erg.KGr. 6 (to 20.03.41). 21.03.41 Oblt., appt Staka 2./Erg.KGr. 4 (to 14.05.41). 01.08.41 promo to Hptm. 11.42 Hptm., in I./KG 60 (to 17.11.42 MIA). 01.06.44 promo to Maj.

NEUMANN – I can’t find anything of a Neumann associated with KG 30.

PODBIELSKI, Friedrich-Franz. 27.10.40 Oblt., MIA Staka 7./KG 4. 01.01.41 promo to Hptm.

RINCK, Friedrich-Karl. 14.10.39 Oblt., trf from 7.(Flieger)/Ln.Versuchs-Rgt. to I./Lehrgruppe 88. 10.05.40 Oblt. in 9./KG 4, POW – in Ju 88 A-1 shot down by Dutch Fokker D XXIs during a dawn attack on Amsterdam-Schiphol and crashed by Hoofdweg, N of Hoofddorp. 01.02.42 promo to Hptm.

SCHLOCKERMANN, Heinz-Hugo (Henno?). (n.d.) Oblt., Staka 7./KG 30. c.05.42 Hptm. (as Henno), appt Kdr. Erprobungsstelle Süd (to 10.44). 01.01.44 Hptm., Staka Erprobungsstelle Cazeaux. 01.05.44 promo to Maj.

RABE, Heinz.– we have nothing about him.

ROHLOFF, K. 1940 Hptm., Staka 9./KG 4 (to 07.07.40 KIA - shot down by 41 Sqdn., crashed at Hornsea, Yorkshire).

SCHUMANN, Martin. 24.04.40 Hptm. and Staka 9./KG 4, POW - shot down by a Fleet Air Arm Skua N of Dombås and SE of Romsdalsfjord and force landed at Holum farm at Dovre/Norway; “liberated” a week or two later. 24.05.40 Maj.?, appt acting Kdr. I./KG 4 (to 02.06.40)? 10.02.41 Hptm., appt Staka Erg.St./KG 30 (to 04.41), then Kdr. IV./KG 30 (to 08.06.42) 26.07.41 Maj., Kdr. III./KG 30. 01.01.42 promo to Maj.

STORP, Walter (August-Franz Walter STORP). (DOB: 02.02.10 in Schnecken/Kreis Elchneiderung in Ost Preussen). …. 01.01.40 appt Staka in KG 30. 01.03.40 appt Staka in KG 4. 14.05.40 appt stellvertretender Kdr. III./KG 4. 03.06.40 Hptm., Staka 8./KG 4, WIA - hit a balloon cable during a night sortie over Le Havre and belly landed at Amsterdam-Schiphol; sent to Wilhelmina Hospital in Amsterdam. 31.08.40 appt Kdr. II./KG 76. 21.10.40 awarded Ritterkreuz. 01.11.40 promo to Maj. …. 01.09.42 appt Kommodore KG 6. 01.02.43 promo to Obstlt. ….

WEINREICH, Helmut. (DOB: 24.09.17 in Lenzen/Ostpreussen). …. 1940 in III./KG 30. 22.01.42 Oblt., awarded DKG, III./KG 30. 1942-43 Oblt., Staka 7./KG 30. 19.02.43 Hptm., in I./KG 30, appt provisional Kdr. I./KG 30 (to 09.43). 21.01.43 Oblt. and Staka in III./KG 30, awarded the Ritterkreuz after completing 320 combat missions. c.10.43 trf from bombers to the Jagdwaffe. ….


We hope that this clarifies matters somewhat.

HLdZ
DGS

[Chris Goss]

In respect of Dietrich Georg Marwitz, I have photos of him in III/KG 3 ( he was with III/KG 153 from 10 Mar 38) and after a number of courses, ended up with I/KG 4 from 25 Feb 40 but then bounced around alot before being reported missing with 8/KG 4 on 27 Oct 40. Schlockermann (known as Henno) spent much of his time with Erprobungsstelle and his only combat time was with KG 30. Metzenthin was taken POW with KG 60 but lost his life flying in South America in the 50s

[noggin]

Just as a sidebar on this , having checked the local papers reports for my Ransome Marles raid in 41 I did come across this raid " On Jan 30th ( not 27th ) 1941 two people were killed in an attack by a single plane, which dropped 14 bombs along the River Trent and Muskham Rd. " That area is next to the Nottingham - Skegness railway line and had the W.N Nicholson's Ironworks ( established 1825 ) between that and the Trent cut. A little further up on the other side of the Trent near the East Coast main line is Farrar boiler works ( established 1887 ) But no one local I know even alive during WW2 has ever heard of "Moulders and Pieters" ironworks in Newark Notts. From what I can find Nicholson's carried on producing agricultural equipment but Farrars produced boilers for the navy.

[noggin]

Have you any more details on Dahlmann's crew for the raid on Newark please ?

[Chris Goss]

Sorry but no

[noggin]

Thanks.

[Frans A]

Doug Stankey
I may have some additional information:
Oblt. Geissler,Hans 9./KG 4 KIA 40-08-01 Northsea
Oblt.Meissner,Rudolf KIA 40-08-26 Schiphol (Neth.) Ysselsteyn CX-10-238
Hptm. Metzenthin,Gerhard POW 42-11-17 Bone Harbour (UK)
Hptm. Neumann,Alfred 8./KG 30 KIA 41-04-19 Tobruk (Lib)
Oblt.Podbielski,Friedrich-Franz 7./KG 4 POW 40-10-27 Dugglesby /Malton (UK)
Oblt. Rinck,Friedrich-Karl 9./KG 30 POW 41-01-27 Boston (UK)
Maj. Weinrech,Helmut Stab/JG 301 KIA 43-11-19 Zeppelinheim (D)

Frans A