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Old 11th August 2009, 23:11
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Bob Goebel shot down Hartmann over Ploesti July 3rd 1944, which victory was this for Goebel?

Hi, apologies for asking but this is proving difficult for me to find on the web and I wonder if anyone has this information.

I'm trying to work out which victory Hartmann would have been for Goebel on the 3rd of July 1944. If any of you could advise me it would be of great help.

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Old 12th August 2009, 00:11
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Re: Bob Goebel shot down Hartmann over Ploesti July 3rd 1944, which victory was this for Goebel?

It was his fourth victory. I have no idea whether it really was Hartmann.

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Re: Bob Goebel shot down Hartmann over Ploesti July 3rd 1944, which victory was this for Goebel?

Mysticpuma,

I have a reminiscence from Bob Goebel about this claim. If you are interested in, drop me a PM.
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