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Old 3rd June 2009, 22:20
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Rudolf Hiltner, 5.ZG1

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I am searching for further informations about pilot Rudolf Hiltner, born in 1920. He flew with 5. Staffel ZG 1. He crashed in a Me110 and died of his wounds on 23. Feb.1943 in a hospital at Linz (Austria). Has somebody more information about the date of crash ( shot down?) and the Me110 he flew?

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Re: Rudolf Hiltner, 5.ZG1

DATE: 23 February 1944
Uffz. Rudolf Hiltner, pilot, 5. Staffel
Uffz. Hans Stöppler, Bordfunker, 5. Staffel
Both killed in action in Bf 110 G-2, 2N+LN, W. Nr. 6383.
Shot down on combat mission. Haag, 10 Kms. zouth-west of Valentin.

You were a year out with your date.
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Old 4th June 2009, 20:25
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Re: Rudolf Hiltner, 5.ZG1

Hello John,

thank you very much and sorry: Of course 1944, not 1943. So Uffz Hiltner wasn´t shot down in the mission on 22. Feb. 1944, when Ofw Uhlig and Olt Müer of II.ZG1 claimed one B-24 respectivly.

Who were the enemies on 23. Feb.?

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Re: Rudolf Hiltner, 5.ZG1

I presume it was the USAAF again.
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Re: Rudolf Hiltner, 5.ZG1

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II./ZG 1 based at Wels on 23 February 1944. Kommandeur: Hptm. Egon Albrecht.

February 23, 1944 AUSTRIA: Eighty-one Fifteenth Air Force B-24s attack an aircraft assembly plant at Steyr, and 21 B-24s demolish much of the Steyr factory responsible for 10 percent of Germany's anti-friction ball-bearing production. Although the bombing results are excellent, the bomber force is attacked over the Alps during the withdrawal by an estimated 120 GAF fighters, and it sustains the Fifteenth Air Force's worst one-day loss ratio to date: 17 B-24s downed against just one Me-210 downed and two Bf-110s damaged by 14th Fighter Group P-38 escort pilots.
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Old 5th June 2009, 12:45
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Re: Rudolf Hiltner, 5.ZG1

Hello Larry,

thank you! Now I checked the Tony Wood- list and found quite a lot of claims for JG3, JG27 and even for ZG1 in this area.

Also: "Fifteenth Air Force dispatched heavy-bombers to the Steyr industries: 102 B-24s dropped 214.0 tons, 21 B-24s dropping 52.0 tons on the ball-bearing plant at Steyr-Wälzlagerwerk. Forces encountered 1 2 0 - plus, primarily from JaFü Ostmark, which accounted for 17 B-24s before the P -3 8s met the force on
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Old 5th June 2009, 18:56
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Re: Rudolf Hiltner, 5.ZG1

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17 B-24s downed against just one Me-210 downed and two Bf-110s damaged by 14th Fighter Group P-38 escort pilots.
Does somebody know names of the further victims of the Me210 / Me110´s downed/damaged?

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Re: Rudolf Hiltner, 5.ZG1

II./ZG 1 lost 2 a/c:

Bf 110 G-2 "2N+LN" W.Nr.6383, 5./ZG 1, Shot down on combat mission. Haag, 10 Kms. south-west of St. Valentin. Crew KiA: Uffz. Rudolf Hiltner, Uffz. Hans Stöppler.

Bf 110 G-2 "2N+MP" W.Nr.120171, 6./ZG 1, Shot down on combat mission. 8 Kms. south-west of Wels airfield. Crew KiA: Uffz. Johann Rücker, Uffz. Karl Henze.

Also, 1 a/c was damaged, Bf110G-2 of 4./ZG 1 with Uffz. Karl Scherz wounded in action near Gmunden.

According Tony Wood lists, II./ZG 1 claimed 4 x B-24. 4, 5, 6 Staffel and Stab Staffel claimed 1 each.

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Re: Rudolf Hiltner, 5.ZG1

Evgeny:
Great to see you back here! Welcome back to the forum. How are you? Did the Russian army find any Bf 110s in the forests while you were there?
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Re: Rudolf Hiltner, 5.ZG1

I am VERY VERY happy to back this forum, friends!!!

Hmm... dont know really, but I'll trace this process I am always interesed in things like that. For example near from my sity was found an Fw190 of Schlacht gruppe If there will be enthusiasts, it will be recovered.

Anyway, I served in Siberia, You know When I was digging my "Rapier" into 1m deep frozened ground, I could find only mammoths
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