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Old 11th April 2012, 19:03
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Bf110 rudder (victories) markings - photos sold on Ebay

Good night to all!
May I ask to some Bf110 experts (John Manhro, for example), if there is a positive identification of the pilot of this Bf 110, which rudder can be seen on this photo (sold recently on Ebay).
PS: I am really happy for the new owner of the picture...this is a very rare photograph with interesting markings on it.
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Old 11th April 2012, 19:22
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Re: Bf110 rudder (victories) markings - photos sold on Ebay

You may want to ask the Do-217 experts instead. Nice photo though.

Possibly NJG 100?

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Old 11th April 2012, 19:26
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Re: Bf110 rudder (victories) markings - photos sold on Ebay

REVI, I didn't look carefully at the picture...YES you are right! It seems to be a Do 217 or 17...and I wrote John Manhro instead of the Bf 110 expert John Vasco....bad day indeed....I mean...quick tipping leads to wrong stuff..!
Thanks for the correction, by the way....
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Old 11th April 2012, 20:12
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Re: Bf110 rudder (victories) markings - photos sold on Ebay

If you use this website http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...s_from_Germany

and do a search (Control F) for NJG 100, you will get 13 hits for Aces who had served some time in NJG 100.
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Old 11th April 2012, 21:14
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Re: Bf110 rudder (victories) markings - photos sold on Ebay

REVI, yes I am aware that several German night-fighters achieved night victories with the Do 215 (Becker), Do 217 (Hans Krause, whom I contacted a long time ago; and several other members of NJG 100, NJG 200, NJG 4, etc...). However, the aircraft victories symbols on the photograph seems to be DAY CLAIMS and not NIGHT FIGHTER CLAIMS (I am sure you have seen this enclosed picture of the rudder from the Ju 88 C-6 from Wittgenstein C9+AE or C9+DE ). I am most intrigued by the symbols below..which for me are "Baloon victories". However, it seems they were achieved over Russia (is that a Red Star)?!?! Thanks for your guess that maybe this is the rudder of a former NJG 100 pilot. Could those last symbols be "U-2 courrier" aircraft? (I do not believe so....honestly).All the best and let's hope the owner of this photo can add something...
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