Me-262 shoot down

[chief wahoo]

My Spitfire Mk XIV RM-797 shot down an Me-262 on 14th Feb 45 [Rudolph Hoffmann]. I'm trying to locate any details/photos etc of this 262 and or the pilot or indeed any details about the engagement

[Norbert Schuchbauer]

Hi,
the info I have from the Gen.Qtr.Meister is as follows:
14-02-45, I./KG 51, Location: Emmerich, Cause: Crash, Me 262 A-2, WNr. 500642, 9K+CL, Damage: 100%, Fw. Hofmann Rudolf, KIA.

Hope this helps,

Norbert

[Dan O'Connell]

Correct Werk Nummer is 500064

[Andreas Brekken]

Hi, Dan.

What is Your source for the correction of the WNr on this loss?

Regards,
Andreas

[chief wahoo]

Hi guys. RM-797 also shot down three other aircraft namely:

11 Apr 45 Ju-52
12 Apr 45 Ar-234
30 Apr 45 Fw-190

Don't know anything more than that.

[Dan O'Connell]

Hi Andreas, it is based on personal communications, plus the fact that 500642 would not be in an officially allocated Werk Nummer block, there is a gap between 500561 until it resumes at 500722.

[Norbert Schuchbauer]

Thank you Dan, I had the same question as Andreas.

Reagrds,

Norbert

[Allan125]

Hi Chief Wahoo - I have checked the 125 Wing ORB for those dates:-
"14/2/45 .....Me262's and Ar234's were active during the day in the battle area, and in the afternoon 610 Sqdn had a lucky break. A section of two led by F/Lt Gaze, after several attempts to engage the elusive raiders, succeeded in getting an Me262 which fell to F/Lt Gaze. The Huns were diving through cloud and then getting back again, so leaving his No. 2 below cloud, Tony went up on top with the idea of giving warning when the next lot were coming down. He arrived on the scene to find three Me262's stooging along like country gentlemen, and he obligingly put one to bed. Congratulations to Tony and 610 Sqdn on the first jet to fall to this Wing."
"11/4/45 Good weather enable the Wing to get cracking to an early start and the day yielded quite a good fruit the richest of which was a Ju.52 destroyed by F/Lt Gaze...."
"12/4/45 we got off to a fairly early start on patrols between DELMONHORST and VERDEN. these were kept going all day and armed recces in the ROTENBURG-SOLTAU-CELLE areas were also flown with some success. F/Lt Gaze again obliged, this time with F/Lt Rake when they jointly destroyed an Arado 234"
30 April 1945 is more difficult to actually give this victory to Tony Gaze in your Spitfire, unless you have his logbook to state he was flying it that day, although he certainly scored on this day "...However, F/Lt Gaze found a Fw190 and shot it down...." as it was a complete day of victories - starting with "What a day! Victory rolls galore, a record month for the Wing and a record month for the Group too" before going on to diarise a most eventful day literally full of victories for 41, 130 and 350 (Belgian) squadrons both aerial and met. and ending with "That completed our day and also our most successful month. 125 Wing - take a bow!" Hope this helps - Allan

[chief wahoo]

Garry C. has seen Tony's logbook and the kills are from this.

Regards

Randal

[Allan125]

Hi Randal - because of the intense activity on 30 April I am glad that you can prove the last one as being in your XIV - the ORB entry for that day is too large to actually type onto this forum, but if you send me your e-mail address via a PM (I have it somewhere from earlier corres. but can't trace it) I will happily scan in that day for you to see where it fitted in. cheers - Allan