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Old 11th June 2015, 19:46
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205 Group losses 27-28 July 1944?

Dear all,

On 27-28 July 1944, 205 Group attacked the Bucharest-Prahova oil refinery with a force of 90 bombers. Who can give my any info on the losses sustained during this raid?

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Old 11th June 2015, 20:20
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Re: 205 Group losses 27-28 July 1944?

La Chasse De Nuit Germano-Roumaine 1943-1944. Jean-Louis Roba Et Cristian Craciunoiu; p77
Wellington LP196 JN°E 150 Sq, Crucea de Piatra ( 10 km East of Craiova ), 5 KIA. see http://www.aircrewremembered.com/raf...insonbert.html
No claims filled but Bf 110 G-4 2Z+FV, WNr 440011 of 11./NJG 6 crashed at Clejani around 23H50,
Ff Fw. Hermann SCHERER and Bf Uffz. Johannes MEHNER bailed out (unhurt?), Bs Ogfr. Otto BORK Killed.
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Old 11th June 2015, 21:41
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Re: 205 Group losses 27-28 July 1944?

KG 826 R piloted by Lt E.Rood , SAAF 31st Sqd Lost at Sea 3 KIA , 5 MIA
825 J piloted by Lt.Rautenbach SAAF 31 Sqd Recovered no losses
LP 196 E piloted by Sgt B.Wilkinson RAF 150 Sqd 5 KIA Piatra
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Re: 205 Group losses 27-28 July 1944?

researcher111,

There was one loss on Lt Rautenbach.s Liberator:

"On the homeward flight, Lt P. A. Rautenbach's Liberator was attacked by a night-fighter in the Danube area. No.3 engine was put out of action and the starboard engine was damaged. Then, after evasive action had been taken , it appeared that the navigator, Lt A. Dickinson,* had baled out. Only on arrival at base was it discovered that some of his parachute shroud lines had become snagged on the nose wheel, from which he was suspended. Efforts to recover the body were unavailing, and it had to be released south of the airfield, where it was recovered next day."

See:
Eagles Victorious.
Martin,H.J. & N Orpen.
Cape Town:Purnell,1978(2nd.imp.).
p.241

* http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/2203371/
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Re: 205 Group losses 27-28 July 1944?

Bruggy, indeed it was on my data base
mistakenly I didn't put it into context .

At the same page u've mentioned , there's a remark regarding a SN2 Radar
was wondering on why the author mentioned that ?

The system seen combat mainly on 88's during that period
I don't think that SN-2 was also fitted on ME-110's
except Lichtensteins. If there was a JU 88 sqd equipped with
SN-2's and was stationed in Romania I was wondering which
was that ?

An other book "Bombers over Sand and Snow "
205th in WWII don't mention the detail. Speaking about
SAAF do you have fate info on an earlier flight KG 839 L ?
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Re: 205 Group losses 27-28 July 1944?

Many thanks chaps for these interesting details, very useful!

Cheers, Theo
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Re: 205 Group losses 27-28 July 1944?

La Chasse De Nuit Germano-Roumaine 1943-1944. Jean-Louis Roba Et Cristian Craciunoiu; pp76-77
has the events happening to the B-24 of n° 31 Squadron SAAF on the previous night (26/27 JUL)
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Re: 205 Group losses 27-28 July 1944?

Udf

The publication u've mentioned is since a longer while no longer available
if someone got an extra copy of I will buy it until then however will be useful to know
what happened.
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