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15th December 2015, 13:51
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Ju 88 Loss 'Bei Gent'
Just acquired a photo showing the fuselage of a Ju 88 and on the back is 'bei Gent'. It was assumed that this loss was 1944. However, a closer look at the fuselage shows the ac to be from KG 77 and it has the letter 'N' roughly applied to the distempered fuselage which would indicate to me that this was a Spring 1941 loss. Anyone have any ideas?
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15th December 2015, 14:36
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Re: Ju 88 Loss 'Bei Gent'
I can find only these, where location contains "Gent":
1940-11-09, 8./KG 1, Ju 88 A-5, 883219, Bei Gent (Gand) Flugzeugführer Olt Beegen, Wolfram, + Beobachter Fw Wunderlich, Hans-Dietrich, + Bordfunker Uffz Büttner, Gerhard, + Bordschütze Gefr Menzel, Willy, + Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %. 1942-07-28, 3./KG 77, Ju 88 A-4, 144075, 3Z+BL, Nördlich Gent Flugzeugführer Ofw Wirth, Werner, verletzt Kampfbeobachter Fw Lothar, Erich, verletzt Bordfunker Fw Caro, Otto. verletzt Bordschütze Fw Kübrich, Franz, verletzt Bauchlandung infolge Jägerbeschuß. Bruch 95 %. Matti
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15th December 2015, 15:14
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Re: Ju 88 Loss 'Bei Gent'
Thanks Matti. Definitely a Ju 88 A with 3Z on the fuselage and Blitz camo which rules out the first. Definitely a Spring-Summer photo so I wonder if it was a typo N for B? Sadly, last letter cannot be seen due to the camouflage
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15th December 2015, 17:55
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Re: Ju 88 Loss 'Bei Gent'
Did the KG77 Ju88s have blacked over undersurfaces for their 1944 anti-invasion fleet ops.?
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15th December 2015, 18:11
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Re: Ju 88 Loss 'Bei Gent'
On photo it has remains of Yellow (Front) stripe over fuselage cross. I think it is possibly Belarus, Ju 88 A-4 0881488 3Z+NL 28.03.43 "unbekannt bruch, Plosskaja, 75 km South-east of Witebsk
Last edited by edNorth; 15th December 2015 at 18:37. Reason: correction
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#7
16th December 2015, 11:17
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Re: Ju 88 Loss 'Bei Gent'
For further discussion, here it is
Last edited by Chris Goss; 15th January 2016 at 15:14.
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#8
16th December 2015, 11:26
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Re: Ju 88 Loss 'Bei Gent'
Unfortunately I have had to 'loft' a load of my info for the Christmas period , under orders . However if Gent is correct, with the A-4 designation and being likely springtime could this aircraft have been lost during the Baedecker raids which included elements of KG77, Eastern front aircraft transferred to IV/77 ?
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16th December 2015, 11:50
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Re: Ju 88 Loss 'Bei Gent'
Good point-not forgetting I/KG 77 which returned from Sechtschinskaja at the end of June 1942 to form I/KG 6
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