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Old 11th February 2017, 11:53
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Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945

Hello, here in the room aspect of the district stade a break landung . Pilot has survived. It should have happened in 1945. It must be a tempest or typhoon. Has anyone the crash listeners and could times look if in the area a crash message gives.
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Old 11th February 2017, 13:14
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Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945

Hello,
Have you any idea as to what time of the year this occurred ?
Mostly it was Spitfires and several Anson's with a few Tempests .
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Old 11th February 2017, 14:38
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Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945

Hello, it must have been in march april or early may 1945. It must have been a tempest or typhoon since this dial has been found on site.

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Old 11th February 2017, 18:25
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Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945

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Hello, it must have been in march april or early may 1945. It must have been a tempest or typhoon since this dial has been found on site.

best regards

Marcel
Marcel !

Please provide us with a location. With "stade Aspe" no serious research can be done without knowing an exact date of the crash.

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Old 11th February 2017, 20:01
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Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945

Hello,
Crashes in Germany.
1945
Hawker Tempest
March 24 - NV920
April 4 - EJ546
April 24 - SN131
May - 0

Hawker Typhoon
Crashes in Germany
1945
March
2- RB285; MN354.
19 - RB214; RB480.
24 - RB208; RB378; PD597.
25 - RB314
26 - RB454
30 - RB435; RB505; SW495.
31 - RB287.

April
1 - SW408; SW425; RB193.
3 - RB487
4 - RB217
5 - SW445
12 - RB228; PD593; SW391.
13 - SW475
18 - RB482
19 - SW412
20 - RB233
23 - RB342; RB423; SW472.
25 - RB323
26 - RB215; RB264; RB429.

May
3 - PD618; PD466.
14 - RB466
27 - RB453
28 - PD613.

Ref: Aviation Safety Network.

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Old 11th February 2017, 20:04
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Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945

Hello,
Date is not known. And the exact place is The district Stade locality Aspe. Germany. According to newspaper 1945 crashed. Month unknown. It is an English hunter. Pilot got out of the machine
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Old 11th February 2017, 21:44
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Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945

Could be Tempest V SN205- F/Lt J L Lawson, 222 Sqdn - on the 1st of May 1945
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Tempest V EJ550 - F/O C E Blee, 486 Sqdn - 3rd of May 1945
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Old 12th February 2017, 00:04
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Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945

Hello,

Here is what "The Wild Winds" (The History of No.486 (RNZAF) Sqn.), has to say about the loss of F/O C E Blee:

3 May 1945, (486 Sqn had earlier claimed two (2), Ju 88s shot down).

(p.273). The occasion was marred through the loss of Charlie Blee, who had copped some flak over the Hamburg estuary while returning home with a duff engine. With the five-plane section , Chas managed to get partway back to base and cras-land within friendly lines by Stade, near the bank of the Elbe, but his Tempest (EJ550) hit hard and he was not seen to emerge by those who orbited above him for some minutes. Days later it was learned why - as well as having a total memory he had fractures to his back, skull and arm, and after being picked up by forward army troops was rushed to hospital in Brussels. When the extent of his injuries were determined he was flown back to England where he spent months hospitalised, his body in plaster. It was an uncomfortable time for both Chas and his wife, but the treatment was largely successful, and by the middle of 1946 they were able to sail for New Zealand.

(p.317). Appendix II: Aircrew Nominal Roll.

Rank: F/O
Name: BLEE, Charles Edward
Awards: -
Origin & Nationality: NZ
Period of Service: 4/45-5/45
Fate: Seriously injured 3/5/45.

See:
The Wild Winds The History of Number 486 RNZAF Fighter Squadron with the RAF.
Sortehaug,Paul.
Dunedin:Otago University Print.1998.

Col.

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Old 12th February 2017, 07:31
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Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945

Many love thanks for the reply.damit I will definitely move forward. I try to find more parts on the pasture to perhaps be able to arrange it. The Lord Blee could indeed be questioned. According to one witness. Came the machine alone with smoky engine very low directional staging towards aspe. Until the machine hit. The pilot should not have gone out. After that the machine went up in flames. The pilot is supposed to have thrown his papers into the burning plane. I myself thought only that it is perhaps an enlightenment. Maybe this crash can only be clarified with a part number. Does anyone have the further information about the other pilot Lawson?
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Old 12th February 2017, 12:26
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Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945

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Many love thanks for the reply.damit I will definitely move forward. I try to find more parts on the pasture to perhaps be able to arrange it. The Lord Blee could indeed be questioned. According to one witness. Came the machine alone with smoky engine very low directional staging towards aspe. Until the machine hit. The pilot should not have gone out. After that the machine went up in flames. The pilot is supposed to have thrown his papers into the burning plane. I myself thought only that it is perhaps an enlightenment. Maybe this crash can only be clarified with a part number. Does anyone have the further information about the other pilot Lawson?
best regards
Marcel
Good Morning Marcel !

About F/L J. L. Lawson's (No. 222 Sq.) crash-landing.

According "RAF Fighter Command Losses - Volume 3", this a/c'(TEMPEST V s/n SN205) engine failed North of Stade and crash-landed. Another source reports the incident as "6 miles North of Stade..." A German doctor brought the pilot to allied territory.

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