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Old 7th March 2021, 17:58
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Kü.FI.Gr.606 vs K.Gr.606

I am trying to establish the date when Kü.FI.Gr.606 was officially renamed as K.Gr.606. According to DeZeng and Stankey's Bomber Units of the Luftwaffe 1933-1945, Volume 2, although this unit was originally formed as a Küstenfliegergruppe, it designation was changed to a Kampfgruppe and was operating as K.Gr.606 by the time hostilities began. However, a number of loss lists for the Battle of Britain period refer to downed Do 17s of Kü.FI.Gr.606. Which is correct?
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Old 7th March 2021, 18:12
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Re: Kü.FI.Gr.606 vs K.Gr.606

Mid-September it was still Kü.Fl.Gr but I have asked before when this change over took place. I will check the NVMs and report back
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Old 7th March 2021, 18:15
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Re: Kü.FI.Gr.606 vs K.Gr.606

Thanks Chris, I have a similar query for Kü.FI.Gr.806 vs K.Gr.806
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Old 8th March 2021, 07:31
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Re: Kü.FI.Gr.606 vs K.Gr.606

DeZeng and Stankey's Bomber Units of the Luftwaffe 1933-1945, Volume 2 are totally wrong on this. As you can see from attached picture, in september 1940 it was still KüFlGr 606.
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Old 8th March 2021, 12:54
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Re: Kü.FI.Gr.606 vs K.Gr.606

Hi

The KüFlGr.606 was never renamed to KGr.606.
In Sept. 1942 KüFlGr.606 was renamed in I./KG 77.

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Old 8th March 2021, 13:12
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Re: Kü.FI.Gr.606 vs K.Gr.606

If you have a look in my book on the Condor, you will see org charts which states that from 10 Jun 41 onward, it became KGr 606. Luftflotte 3 on 19 May 1941 calls it Kü.Fl.Gr 606 but the unit NVM for the same dates says KGr 606 as do NVMs for April 1941! As for 806, NVM for Aug 40 says KGr 806
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Old 8th March 2021, 13:40
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Re: Kü.FI.Gr.606 vs K.Gr.606

It says K.Gr.606 and K.Gr.806 in the Einsatsbereitschaftsmeldung during may/june 1941. It says K.Fl.Gr.606 in March 1941
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Old 8th March 2021, 16:10
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Re: Kü.FI.Gr.606 vs K.Gr.606

Thanks to all. The key point from my point of view is that the units remained as Kü.Fl.Gr.606 and Kü.Fl.Gr.806 throughout the Battle of Britain period.
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Old 8th March 2021, 16:22
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Re: Kü.FI.Gr.606 vs K.Gr.606

Not according to the NVM for 806 which says it was a KGr in Aug 40 likewise Luftflotte 3 records......
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Old 8th March 2021, 17:27
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Re: Kü.FI.Gr.606 vs K.Gr.606

Thanks Chris, I will take that into account for 806. Am I safe to assume that Kü.Fl.Gr.606 served under that name throughout the BoB?
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