16 SFTS RAF Newton

[Gregor30]

Hi,
Here`s what I have found in 16 SFTS ORB:
25/7/42 - Oxford (no serial number given) crashed near Saxondale cross roads. Cpl Malczynski killed. Multiple fractures of the skull.
25/5/43 - Master III 8540 crashed near Arnold, Notts. LAC Mroczek killed.
7/7/43 - Master III W8706 crashed. LAC Gorski killed.
2/9/43 - Master (no details of the crash in 16 SFTS ORB)
24/25/2/44 - Master DM283 crashed one mile south of Stapleford. LAC Sierzega killed.
25/3/44 - Master II DL938 crashed on the aerodrome at approx. 11.25 hrs. P/O Szwede and Sgt Brown (British) died instantly due to multiple injuries.
12/5/44 - Oxford 965 totally wrecked in collision with Oxford I LW915. F/L Peski killed. The pilot of the second Oxford LW915 AC2 Miernik uninjured.
16/6/44 U/Kn (no accident recorded with that date in 16 SFTS ORB. The only fatal crash in June 1944 took place on 9/6/1944)
19/7/44 - Oxford I PG994 crashed near Normanton. W/O Mierniczek, F/Sgt Koper and AC2 Tomaszewski killed.
12/10/44 - Master II DM424 caught fire in cockpit after carrying out "overshoot" at Tollerton and dived to the ground killing AC2 Maciula instantly.

Hopefully you will find it useful.
Regards,
Greg

[Col Bruggy]

Hello,

25/5/43 - 792593 LAC Euzebiusz MROCZEK was aboard Master III W8450, not W8540.

Col.

[Gregor30]

Col.
Then it must be an error in 16 SFTS ORB.

Greg

[Alex Smart]

Hello Col,
As I understood it this was a ground accident so not a "crash" ?
In which case would it have warented an entry into the ORB ?
Or just an entry into an appendix ?
Alex

[Stig Jarlevik]

Alex

Col is correct. W8450 was a night time accident where poor Mroczek (no doubt lost) unluckily hit a tree when trying to force land at Coppice Road, Arnold, Notts.

Gregor

Yes the compiler of 16 SFTS no doubt suffered (as so many others) from fingertrouble and wrote W8540 (which was a black out serial and did not exist) instead of W8450.

B Rgds
Stig

[noggin]

Thank you all very much. 16 June 1944 wasn't 16 SFTS but Oxford ED236 CFS RAF Upavon , crashed at Castle Coombe F/O Jozef Urbanski 2xML killed. Born 1910 Olesnica Lodz Poland , buried Newark Cemetery. Also killed S/Ldr William Jefferies RAF buried Bath Haycombe cemetery; Major Pieter Hayden-Thomas, SAAF buried Bath Haycombe cemetery.

[Col Bruggy]

Originally Posted by noggin

Thank you all very much. 16 June 1944 wasn't 16 SFTS but Oxford ED236 CFS RAF Upavon , crashed at Castle Coombe F/O Jozef Urbanski 2xML killed. Born 1910 Olesnica Lodz Poland , buried Newark Cemetery. Also killed S/Ldr William Jefferies RAF buried Bath Haycombe cemetery; Major Pieter Hayden-Thomas, SAAF buried Bath Haycombe cemetery.

Just a few finer points on the above. Oxford I ED236 was on the charge of the Empire Central Flying School at Hullavington, not the Central Flying School, Upavon. The Oxford hit a wall on a BABS approach to Castle Combe, Wiltshire. S/Ldr William JEFFERIES RAF, should read; 100542 S/L (Flying Instructor) William Peter JEFFERIES RAFVR. The SAAF fatality should read; P102652V Major Pieter Jooste HAYDEN-THOMAS AFC, SAAF.

Col.

[Alex Smart]

Thanks Col,
In my earlier post.
I did list ED236 as ECFS.
Alex

[Stig Jarlevik]

Originally Posted by Alex Smart

Hello,
Found the following in ABs RAF Serial books.

25 not 23/7/42 - Oxford I - V3866.
25/5/43 - Master III - W8450.
7/7/43 - Master III - W8706.
2/9/43 - ?
25/2/44 - Master II - DM283.
25/3/44 - Master II - DL938.
12/5/44 - Oxford I - LW965.
16/6/44 - Oxford I - ED236, but ECFS.
19/7/44 - Oxford I - P9994.
12/10/44 - Master II - DM424.

Alex

Alex
Sorry for checking this so late, but 19/7/44 is a puzzle
The Oxford P9994 is a serial which all my sources says was canx. Do you mean another serial or do you have something I don't have??

Cheers
Stig

[noggin]

19 July 1944 Oxford PG944 16 SFTS RAF Swinderby to RAF Newton on night flying exercise. While in initial climb, the aircraft went out of control and crashed in a field near Normanton on Trent , killing all 3 crew buried Newark Cemetery.
W/O Bogdan Koper
AC2 Ignacy Tomaszewski Pilot U/T
W/O Stanislaw Mierniczek