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Old 11th February 2020, 18:02
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Re: Bell P-39 top ten ace list

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I recently got the book SOVIET UNION AIR ACES 1941-1945 by Waldermar Trojca Model hobby and theresis no mention on Bobrov Vladimir Ivanovich? while other books do mention him and lack of the HSU wants going ?

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Old 12th February 2020, 10:59
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Re: Bell P-39 top ten ace list

Good morning Santiago,

you find Bobrov here:
http://soviet-aces-1936-53.ru/abc/b/bobrov.htm

Good morning Alfred,

yes Nikolaj Filippovič Mirišničenko scored a P-63 kill:
http://aces.safarikovi.org/victories...apan.1945.html

The idea of the Americans having scored CBI kills in the P-39 is from here:
http://www.warbirdsandairshows.com/a...torieswwii.htm

Have a nice Wednesday,

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Re: Bell P-39 top ten ace list

Michael,

With regard to US P-39/P-400 claims in the CBI, I have been through the squadron and group records for the units there, and none of them ever had P-39s/P-400s. This was part of my research for my AVG/CBI Victory List, published last century/millennium. I suggest you get in touch with the webmaster of that webpage and ask for sources and details.

The webpage is also wrong in stating zero victories for the Hellcat in the MTO, and at least technically wrong with it scoring zero victories in the CBI. On Jan 12, 1945 VF-3 shot down a number of Japanese aircraft over Saigon. Yorktown of course was out in the South China Sea at that time, so the Hellcats were not *based* in Indo China/Vietnam.

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Re: Bell P-39 top ten ace list

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GThe idea of the Americans having scored CBI kills in the P-39 is from here:
http://www.warbirdsandairshows.com/a...torieswwii.htm
William Wolf have done the same kind of table for his great book "Victory Roll!" while Robert Allen also provided me with his own, I'll look into them if it confirm this (which I doubt).
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Re: Bell P-39 top ten ace list

Good evening Frank & Alfred,

the webmaster is David Jackson, a notable expert for air shows (and several other topics). His source is “Victory Roll –The American Fighter Pilot and Aircraft in WWII” by William Wolf.

In my own edited list, which is based on Robert Allen's list I have 8 MTO victories and 0 ETO victories for the F6F (adjusted by Barrett Tillman). Thanks for the VF-3 info. I think 0 CBI victories for the F6F means that no F6F were operated from Asian continent bases.

No CBI unit had P-39's ?

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