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Loss of 1/KG77, Ju88 A4, 3Z+ICH 15.12.1942. Philippeville, Belgium.
Any info, I have the crew names and fates, but need any other info on the circumstances of this loss.
Thanks Joe |
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Re: Loss of 1/KG77, Ju88 A4, 3Z+ICH 15.12.1942. Philippeville, Belgium.
Hi Joe,
Philippeville is in Algeria, rather than Belgium. Ten Ju 88s of I. and II./K.G. 77, operating under II. Fliegerkorps, attacked the harbour there on the night of 15/16 December, causing fires. Cheers, Andrew A. Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com/earticles |
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Re: Loss of 1/KG77, Ju88 A4, 3Z+ICH 15.12.1942. Philippeville, Belgium.
I think the Philippeville in question is 25 km south south east of Charleroi, Belgium! but Algeria could be an option.
Last edited by Joe Potter; 4th August 2018 at 07:54. |
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Re: Loss of 1/KG77, Ju88 A4, 3Z+ICH 15.12.1942. Philippeville, Belgium.
Hi Joe,
It was the Philippeville in Algeria. Attached is the relevant mission order from II. Fliegerkorps. Cheers, Andrew A. Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com/earticles |
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Re: Loss of 1/KG77, Ju88 A4, 3Z+ICH 15.12.1942. Philippeville, Belgium.
Thanks Andrew,
Sorted, the pilot, Ofw Kurt Berning EKM 53576/541, was killed, and all the other members of his crew were POW, but Berning is not listed by the VDK, hence my enquiry. Last edited by Joe Potter; 4th August 2018 at 12:33. |
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Re: Loss of 1/KG77, Ju88 A4, 3Z+ICH 15.12.1942. Philippeville, Belgium.
Hi Joe,
the aircraft was Ju 88 A-4 WNr. 140208 3Z+JH (Gen.Qu. loss report from 23 Dec 1942). Regards Leo |
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Re: Loss of 1/KG77, Ju88 A4, 3Z+ICH 15.12.1942. Philippeville, Belgium.
Hello Joe,
This has already answered by others, I will leave the loss record from Volume 3 of "Meditteranean Air War" by Shores et al. here, for reference: 1./KG 77 Ju 88 A-4 WNr 142 008 3Z+JG lost near Philippeville; Obfw Kurt Berning KiA, three PoW. The British night fighter claims are all matched by other losses, so presumably this Ju 88 was shot down by anti-aircraft fire. Perhaps there is an Allied interrogation report with this information, given that three crew members were taken prisoner. Regards, Dan
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Re: Loss of 1/KG77, Ju88 A4, 3Z+ICH 15.12.1942. Philippeville, Belgium.
Thanks to Leo and Dan, I have PM'd you both.
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Re: Loss of 1/KG77, Ju88 A4, 3Z+ICH 15.12.1942. Philippeville, Belgium.
So which one was it?
Wnr 140208 or 142008? I don't have my WNr list where I am right now, so I don't know if both are possible and if so where the typo is.... Cheers Stig |
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Re: Loss of 1/KG77, Ju88 A4, 3Z+ICH 15.12.1942. Philippeville, Belgium.
I have WNr.088 0140208 as 4D+GH -1942-04-26 source http://www.luftwaffe.no
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