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Bf110D1/R1 Dackelbauch - dinghy extension or not?
I recently acquired Dragon's 1/32 scale kit of this aircraft (kit #3207), and found they only provide parts for the extended tail which housed the dinghy, not the shorter version.
My information is that the dinghy extension was only standard on the D-3 and some D-0 models, and then on the E-2. The Dackelbauch would not have had it. I wrote to Dragon China and asked them if they would be kind enough to send the parts for the short tail version, but they declined, saying they think they have it correct with the dinghy extension. Does anyone have good information on this? Online profiles and other kits aren't any good for reference, and apart from the Squadron/Signal Bf110 books and the Osprey Zerstorer Aces book, I have no other references. Thanks Peter |
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Re: Bf110D1/R1 Dackelbauch - dinghy extension or not?
Perhaps this helps BF 110 D Zusatzanlagen
. Last edited by Snautzer; 11th July 2018 at 10:24. |
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Bf 110D1/R1 Dackelbauch - dinghy extension or not?
Hello
John Vasco is the man to ask about the Bf 110 but if my memory is correct from reading his books on the subject all of the Bf 110 D-series had the "boat tail." Interestingly, the Dackelbauch you are modelling was the Bf 110 D-0; there was no D-1/R1. Horrido! Leo |
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Re: Bf110D1/R1 Dackelbauch - dinghy extension or not?
Since I got a load of crap from one of the Mods recently (you know who you are), I'm providing no more information on here.
All I'll say is you are looking at the wrong books...
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Re: Bf110D1/R1 Dackelbauch - dinghy extension or not?
Peter,
Are you referring to M8+AL or M8+SL, or both? Col. |
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Re: Bf110D1/R1 Dackelbauch - dinghy extension or not?
Col, I was referring mainly to Gollob's AL, but I would have thought both would be the same ..... Are you saying that is not necessarily the case?
Thanks Peter |
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Re: Bf110D1/R1 Dackelbauch - dinghy extension or not?
Peter,
I haven't got a shot of Gollob's M8+AL, but there is another colour side view in, Messerschmitt Bf 110 Vol.II (Lublin:Kagero,2005, unpaginated rear section). This is similar to the Osprey/Weal profile of the same aircraft - dackelbauch - yes, extended dinghy storage - no. Conversely, in John Vasco and Fernando Estanislau's Messerschmitt BF 110 C,D and E An Illustrated Study Variants - Weapons - Equipment. Classic:Hersham,2008, we have two photographs (pp.157-8), of Bf 110D-O M8+SL (W.Nr.3157), one of them showing the dackelbauch and the dinghy extension! Col. |
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Re: Bf110D1/R1 Dackelbauch - dinghy extension or not?
Thanks, Col. That lines up with the only info I have - that the D-0 trial Dackelbauchs had the dinghy, and the D-1 did not. But was Gollob's really a D-1, or did Weal and Kagero get it wrong?
Or, as Snautzer hinted, maybe the dinghy extension was added in-field? Peter |
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Re: Bf110D1/R1 Dackelbauch - dinghy extension or not?
Hello,
I notice that Jerry Crandall and Mark Proulx helped in the preparation of the Dragon 1/32 Bf 110 D kit. Maybe a comment from one of them might clear the air. Col. |
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