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Wellington 157 Sqdn. vs U-459 24.07.1944
Hello!
U-459 (Milchkuh) was hit that day by one Wellington during the attack with Anti Submarine Bombs (aircraft dove tight at the boat) and crased into the Sea. Another Wellington from 157 Sqdn. (?) sunk the boat. I'm search for the names from the crew and Code, Serial-No. from the crashed Wellington. Thank you for support h. |
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Re: Wellington 157 Sqdn. vs U-459 24.07.1944
Operations Record Book online here: https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ils/r/D8390033
and here: https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ils/r/D8390032 If you view it full-screen, you can usually read through the watermarks — or you can download copies for £3.50 for each document. |
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Re: Wellington 157 Sqdn. vs U-459 24.07.1944
157 Sqn flew Mosquitoes?
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Re: Wellington 157 Sqdn. vs U-459 24.07.1944
There seems to be some mixed up information here.
https://uboat.net/boats/u459.htm Quote:
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Re: Wellington 157 Sqdn. vs U-459 24.07.1944
Alex Smart has compiled a list of Coastal Command losses for July 1944 over on RAF Commands Forum, linked below:
http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...mand-July-1944 I'm not sure how comprehensive the list is, but 172 Sqn lost a number of Wellingtons while 547 Sqn did not, in July 44. (According to the list, but again, I'm uncertain if it covers all Coastal Comm losses; or just the ones Alex is questioning.) Alex is also here in this forum, so perhaps can shed more light in due course. ...geoff
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Re: Wellington 157 Sqdn. vs U-459 24.07.1944
Further information:
https://uboat.net/history/aircraft_losses.htm Quote:
Details on pilot and rest of crew lost in Wellington MP514 172 Squadron to fire from U-459, July 24, 1943 http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?qnum=84892 Last edited by Orwell1984; 9th November 2019 at 05:06. Reason: Serial number transcription error on my part |
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Re: Wellington 157 Sqdn. vs U-459 24.07.1944
Hello,
The No.172 Sqn Wellington XII shot down by U-459 on 24 July 1943, was MP514:Q., not Wellington WP514 (never existed). Col. |
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Re: Wellington 157 Sqdn. vs U-459 24.07.1944
Thanks for catching that. Sloppy transcription on my part.
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Re: Wellington 157 Sqdn. vs U-459 24.07.1944
Orwell1984,
Nothing really, just a correction! Missing from Jagan's casualty list for No.172 Wellington XII MP514 on 24 July, 1943, is 957961 Sgt (W.Op./Air Gnr.) Arthur Alexander 'Ack-Ack' TURNER RAFVR, who was the sole survivor picked up along with the U-boat survivors, by the Polish destroyer "Orkan". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur...er,_born_1921)) No mention here of his tustle with U-459! better to look here: https://www.theguardian.com/football...urner-obituary Col. Last edited by Col Bruggy; 9th November 2019 at 06:59. |
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Re: Wellington 157 Sqdn. vs U-459 24.07.1944
Hector Bolitho interviewed the survivor, Turner at Northwood Coastal's HQ.
Bolitho's mentions Turner in his papers that were part of his estate when he died in Brighton in 1974. Managed to track these and others down between 2010 - 2014 including works that appear in Task for Coastal Command. Unfortunately as Coastal is seen as a niche market in UK can't find anyone to publish. Some fascinating and tragic stories. Andy Bird |
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