W.Nr./crash locations of three Nachtjagd losses 20-21 January 1944?

[Theo Boiten]

Dear all,

Who can help me fill in the Werknummer plus precise crash locations of the following three Nachtjäger, all lost during the 20-21 January 1944 Berlin raid:

NJG5 Stab I. Bf110 G-4 W.Nr ? (Hptm. Hoffmann & crew, C9+CB), near Dreetz?
JG301 Stab Fw190 A W.Nr.? near Welzow
JG301 9. Bf109 G W.Nr.? near Jüterbog

Cheers, Theo

[lilsis]

Hello,

maybe ??

20.01.1044 9./JG301 Fw. Eugen Bauer, Jütebog Luftkampf gefallen

regards

regards

[Kaczmarek]

Hello Theo,

his could be also

Ofw. Heinz Stahlhut Stab/J.G. 301
Fw 190 A-
bailed out, engine fire near Welzow

Ofw. Siegfried Heintsch 1./J.G. 301
Bf 109 G-6, 27045
killed in combat near Pretzsch / Elbe

Stab IV./N.J.G. 5 - C9+BW and C9+BF
4./N.J.G. 5 - C9+IN

Cheers, René

[Theo Boiten]

Thanks René and Lilsis,

I have the following nine losses for the night -for the preparation of one of the plotting maps in the 1944 NCA series I need to have the complete details for these losses, in particular the correct W.Nr and crash locations:

NJG4 6. Bf110 G-4 5431 Spreenhagel near Berlin
NJG5 Stab IV. Bf110 G-4 140016 Strigleben near Terneberg
NJG5 Stab I. Bf110 G-4 ? (Hptm. Hoffmann & crew, C9+CB), near Dreetz?
NJG1 Stab II. Bf110 G-4 720180 Herne/Westfalen
NJG5 Stab IV. Bf110 G-4 720015 Werben near Kogau
JG301 Stab Fw190 A-7 430178 10 km. N. of Kehlheim/Bayern
JG301 Stab Fw190 A ? near Welzow
JG301 9. Bf109 G ? near Jüterbog
JG302 1. Bf109 G-6 27045 Pretzsch/Elbe

Cheers, Theo

[Kaczmarek]

Originally Posted by Theo Boiten

NJG4 6. Bf110 G-4 5431 Spreenhagen near Berlin
NJG5 Stab IV. Bf110 G-4 140016 Strigleben near Terneberg
NJG5 Stab I. Bf110 G-4 ? (Hptm. Hoffmann & crew, C9+CB), near Dreetz? nothing found ?
NJG1 Stab II. Bf110 G-4 720180 Herne/Westfalen, Castroper Straße 12 (Güterbahnhof)
NJG5 Stab IV. Bf110 G-4 720015 Werben near Kogau perhaps Werben/Elbe, Kogau ? perhaps a typo
JG301 Stab Fw190 A-7 430178 10 km. N. of Kelheim/Bayern according to the NVM ferrying flight
JG301 Stab Fw190 A ? near Welzow
JG301 9. Bf109 G ? near Jüterbog
JG302 1. Bf109 G-6 27045 Pretzsch/Elbe

Two further losses from the N.J.G.2 and one from N.J.G. 5.

[Theo Boiten]

Thanks a lot for these additional details Kaczmarek. May I ask you if you could expand on the 'two further losses from the N.J.G.2 and one from N.J.G. 5' that you mention? Do these concern aircraft that were damaged in action, or actual losses?

Cheers and thanks, Theo

[Kaczmarek]

Hello Theo,

3./N.J.G. 2
FF Fw. Robert Lüddeke unhurt
BF Uffz. Wacker unhurt
BS Uffz. Ulrich Heß hurt
Ju 88 C-6, 750999, R4+EL
combat with R.A.F. a/c, emergency landing, SW Lübeck

Stab/N.J.G. 2
FF Major Heinrich Prinz zu Sayn-Wittgenstein unhurt
BF NN
BS NN
Ju 88 C-6,
collision with crashing Lancaster, belly landing at Erfurt-Bindersleben

4./N.J.G. 5
FF NN
BF Uffz. Karl-Heinz Kiel hurt
BS NN
Bf 110 G-4, 720006, C9+IN
emergency landing, Grittel near Eldenau

Cheers, René

[Theo Boiten]

Hello René,

Thanks for sharing these additional details. I have, however, for Ofw. Lüddeke of 3./NJG2 that he claimed two probable Halifax Abschüsse during a sortie from Deelen in Ju88 C-6 R4+EL between 17.35 and 21.40 hrs on this night ..

Cheers, Theo

[TigerTimon]

R4+EL was not a crash, Namentliche Verlustmeldung says: Flugzeug unten 10% beschädigt - damage less than 10%.

The landing occured 21.40 hrs in Deelen. Heß was taken to a military hospital in Arnhem.