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Old 21st March 2009, 21:11
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Stab./KG26

Did Ernst-August Roth still hold the position as kommodore KG26 in 1945?
Stab./KG26 was in Vaernes at the end of the war, and this photo shows the remains of a Stab Ju188 at the dump.

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Old 21st March 2009, 22:03
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Re: Stab./KG26

According to Michael Holm's site, these were the Geschwaderkommodore of KG 26:
GenMaj Hans Siburg, 1939 - 9.39
GenMaj Robert Fuchs, 29.9.39 - 15.10.40
GenLt Alexander Holle, 15.10.40 - 6.41
Oberst Martin Harlinghausen, 6.1.42 - 11.42
Oberst Karl Stockmann, 12.42 - 2.43
Obstlt Werner Klümper, 3.43 - 11.44
Obstlt Wilhelm Stemmler, 11.44 - 1.45
Obstlt Georg Teske, 2.45 - 5.45

There is no mention of an Ernst-August Roth.

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Old 21st March 2009, 22:32
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Re: Stab./KG26

Yes - see that now. Roth was possibly kommodore after Fuchs in desember 41. So could this be Teske's 188?
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Old 22nd March 2009, 04:36
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Re: Stab./KG26

Here’s what we have on this guy:

ROTH, Ernst-August.
(DOB: 19.04.98 in Potsdam).
01.03.34 trf to the Luftwaffe from the Marine with a rank of Hptm., appt Referent and Abt.-Leiter for Bodensorganisation Land u. See/ RLM, and concurrently ordered to Luftkreis VI (See).
01.01.35 promo to Maj.
10.07.36 appt Kdr. Fl.Waffenschule (See) Parow (to 30.09.37).
01.03.37 promo to Obstlt.
01.10.37 appt Kdr. Kü.Fl.Gr. 106.
01.04.39 appt Chef des Stabes/Gen. d.Lw. beim Ob.d.M.
01.06.39 promo to Oberst.
02.40 concurrently appt Lufttransport-Chef des X. Fl.Korps.
01.08.40 appt Kommodore KG 40.
22.12.40 appt Kommodore KG 28.
17.11.41 awarded DKG.
02.12.41 appt Kommodore KG 26.
11.12.41 appt Fliegerführer Sizilien.
13.01.42 re-appt Kommodore KG 26.
01.08.42 promo to Gen.Maj.
11.02.43 appt Fliegerführer Lofoten/Kirkenes.
07.43 concurrently appt Fliegerführer Nord (Ost) (to 03.44).
16.11.43 awarded Ritterkreuz.
19.04.44 (or 15.06.44?) appt Fliegerführer 5, Drontheim.
19.08.44 assigned to Führerreserve OKL and Gen.z.b.V. with Luftgau Kdo. VII and XI (order rescinded?). 10.10.44 appt Kommandierender Gen. d.dt. Lw.in Norwegen.
01.01.45 promo to Gen.Lt.
09.06.45 into British captivity in Norway.
15.03.48 released.
†26.09.75 in Ahrensburg.


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Old 22nd March 2009, 16:38
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Re: Stab./KG26

Doug

This is not exactly what you state in Volume 1 of Bomber Units etc two years ago. There you list Roth as Kommodore 15.12.41 to 2.2.42.....

Should we take this as an update? If so can you update the second formation of Stab/KG 26 which most other earlier sources state did not exist.

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Old 22nd March 2009, 17:46
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Re: Stab./KG26

Yes, this can be considered an update. The personnel and unit databases are being updated continually. In the past year alone, the amount of material added to the officer career database by several hundred pages and at least two thousand new guys. The bomber book manuscript was frozen as of 31 December 2006 and so it is relatively "old". For our forthcoming Ground Attack units book, we re-generated the commanders lists from scratch using the latest data but even this has not resolved all the issues or filled in all the slots. Much information is still missing. Compounding matters is that the original documents are a bit ambiguous as to the types of promotions (acting, provisional, permanent) and dates (they are heavily time-lagged). While we shall endeavor to include updates and corrections to the last moment before commitment to print, there cannot be an absolute guarantee of accuracy because, unfortunately, this is impossible. All we can do is assure you is that we will try to be as accurate as possible within the constraints that exist.

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Old 22nd March 2009, 21:00
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Re: Stab./KG26

Thanks Doug

Any chance all those of us who has bought your 2-set Bomber volumes can get an update whenever the two of you feel like it?

I have to confess, I am rather sour at those authors/publishers where you have to buy the second issue to receive any such updates.....

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Old 22nd March 2009, 21:18
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Re: Stab./KG26

This sounds reasonable request! I will start in on it right away and then post it for all to read. It will take at least a week.
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Old 22nd March 2009, 21:27
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Re: Stab./KG26

Thanks Doug

Really appreciated

From someone who liked the two first books and also look forward to future issues

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Old 22nd March 2009, 21:53
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Re: Stab./KG26

Hello anderbe

Aside the real question (the others answered that nicely), no Stab./KG 26 Ju 188 aircraft was given in post-surrender lists of aircraft at Vaernes (info from Norwegian website). I think this Ju 188 A-3 LT then may have had accident before 09.05.45, be wrongly listed or be one of those in the reserve list. This is the list I have over Ju 88 / 188 surrendered at Vaernes but all are still without codes/W.Nr.:

Værnes (total 13)

1 Ju 88 Stab./KG 26
2 Ju 88 A-17 II/KG 26
5 Ju 188 A-3 III/KG 26
1 Ju 88 D-1 Tkdo 1.(F)/120
2 Ju 88 D-1 Westa 3
2 Ju 188 Ob.Qu.Reserve

Have you maybe codes or W.Nr. for these these a/c? Much appreciated if some more could be indentified! (or PM if you prefer?)

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