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Old 3rd May 2015, 17:51
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Thanks to Mathias B, over on LRG Forum, here are two interesting shots:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/002-WWII-942...p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/001-WWII-942...p2047675.l2557

IMHO a MTT built Bf 109 G-14/AS W.Nr. 78. ... "Gelbe 12", 7./JG 53, Malmsheim, early April. Source: 942nd Eng Topographic Bn via eBay, with thanks to Mathias B, LRG Forum, 3 May 2015.

Any infirmation/confirmation would be greatly appreciated.


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Old 3rd May 2015, 18:09
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Hi there Gang,

Thanks to Mathias B, over on LRG, here are two interesting shots:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/001-WWII-942...p2047675.l2557
http://www.ebay.com/itm/001-WWII-942...p2047675.l2557

IMHO, we have a MTT built Bf 109 G-14/AS W.Nr. 78. ... "Gelbe 12", 7./JG 53, Malmsheim (?), after 1 April 1945. Source: 942nd Engineers Topographic Bn via LRG Forum.

Any information/confirmation is warmly welcomed

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Old 23rd June 2015, 10:10
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Here we are again with a fine shot of a WNF built Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 20xxx "Weisse 66".
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Messersc...item488014007a

The seller's caption says JG 3, Bernburg, no date given. Could it be an Erg.JG Süd machine, sometimes in the Summer of 1944 ?

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Old 23rd June 2015, 18:16
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

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Here we are again with a fine shot of a WNF built Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 20xxx "Weisse 66".
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Messersc...item488014007a
What is the full text on that radiator flap?

PS. Thank you for your great Flickr account, incredibly informative and helpful. Will it always be exclusively for 109's?
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Old 29th June 2015, 11:23
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

You're most welcome, Jasate. And unfortunately, no idea of the full text in this radiator flap...

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Old 2nd July 2015, 18:32
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

And an exceptionally clear Bf 109 K-4 shot, again thanks to Franck Benoîton:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/dateposted/
Bf 109 K-4 W.Nr. 33. 148, unit unknown, Gardelegen, after 15 April 1945. Source: eBay auction via Facebook.com. Courtesy of Franck Benoîton, Bf 109 from Anton to Toni Group, Facebook.com, 2 July 2015.

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Old 5th July 2015, 10:26
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

And now an Erla nut to crack:

Thanks to Randy Malmostroem, over on Facebook, here are two pics showing an unfinished Erla Bf 109 G-14 airframe whith its factory W.Nr. 50 278 painted in the centre of the Balkenkreuz:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/

Could the location be Leipzig Mockau ?
What would be the RLM W.Nr. for Erla factory W.Nr. 50 278 ?

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Old 5th July 2015, 11:05
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

From where you know that's an G-14 from the 465xxx - range? Could it be an G-10-frame too?

Greetings Rasmussen

P.S.: The location wasn't Leipzig-Mockau. They used another type of hangars.
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Thanks Jörg!

Actually Gregor Guttenberger just pointed out the right side half moon under the windscreen convincingly. We thus have either a G-14/AS or a G-10. What about the Erla factory W.Nr. Could this number 50278 written in the usual Erla position in the central space of the fuselage Balkenkreuz be one ? Were they still used at that late time ?
And thanks for the airfield. Scratch that one. What about other locations ? Erfurt ?

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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Hello Marc-Andre'

if this is a Erla Werknummer 50.278,it is RLM Werknummer 151.992, a Bf 109 G10/R6, manufactured late March 1945 and then "abgestellt". That means, the completely finished aircraft was not delivered to Luftwaffe, but simply put on storage at the manufacturer, presumably not even having a BAL Abnahme.

There are quite a few newly a/c put aside in March/April 1945. I can only guess on the reasons for this, perhaps lack of gas, perhaps no need for Bf 109s any more, perhaps no pilots for acceptance or delivery. Rasmussen is the expert on Erla, perhaps he can enlighten us.

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