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Old 5th July 2012, 20:21
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Information concerning loss of Uffz. Ludwig Hartl - Sturzkampfgeschwader - 11.12.1941

Hi,

Can anyone please provide details over the loss Uffz. Ludwig Hartl who was killed as a member of a Stuka aircrew on the 11th December 1941?

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Old 5th July 2012, 21:48
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Re: Information concerning loss of Uffz. Ludwig Hartl - Sturzkampfgeschwader - 11.12.1941

Hi.

Think your guy is in this crew:

http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=158009

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Old 5th July 2012, 22:57
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Re: Information concerning loss of Uffz. Ludwig Hartl - Sturzkampfgeschwader - 11.12.1941

I think Andreas has the right guy, but I also had this:

Ju 87, , n.n., , III., 7., St.G. 2, , , , , 11-Dec-41, Machine gun fire. Bf WIA., , VIII.Fl.Korps/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #4)-Vol.7, , bei Klin, b, F, Bf Gefr. Anton Hartel, ,
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Re: Information concerning loss of Uffz. Ludwig Hartl - Sturzkampfgeschwader - 11.12.1941

Anton Hartl (not Hartel) is not the same guy. By chance two Hartls, both Bordfunker, were involved in accidents in the same day.

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Old 6th July 2012, 11:19
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Re: Information concerning loss of Uffz. Ludwig Hartl - Sturzkampfgeschwader - 11.12.1941

Hi,

I also had this other Hartel, and although he was in a StG I assumed the name was the best match.

And yes Matti - what are the chances for this to happen??

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Re: Information concerning loss of Uffz. Ludwig Hartl - Sturzkampfgeschwader - 11.12.1941

Place of Dead is Roth am Sand, Bavaria/Germany!! (Small town near Nuremberg with an Airfield) "Tödlich abgestürzt" are the german words for "Killed in an accident".
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