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Re: bombers at dieppe
To try and match who got who is difficult as:
I/KG 2 lost 3 Do 217s with four damaged II/KG 2 lost 6 with 3 damaged III/KG 2 lost 3 with one damaged 11/KG 4 suffered one He 111 damaged II/KG 40 lost three Do 217s with one damaged III/KG 53 lost one He 111 with one damaged I/KG 77 lost one Ju 88 with one damaged KuFlGr lost 3 Ju 88s over UK |
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Re: bombers at dieppe
Thanks Chris,
are you sure that the KFlGr.106 Ju.88A4s were lost over the UK? I have: "M2+FH" Wnr. 140718 (Lt. E. Kogenbein & crew, 1 KIA, 3 MIA) of 1. Staffel lost 100% cause and place unknown. "M2+EL" Wnr. 1534 ? (Fw. P. Lehmann & crew, 4 KIA) of 3. Staffel lost 100% cause and place unknown. "M2+FL" Wnr. 1534 ? (Uffz. F. Kottarier & crew, 3 KIA, 1 WIA) of 3. Staffel lost 100% cause and place unknown. A fourth Ju.88A-4 (Wnr. 140078) of KFlGr.106 was damaged (20%) and force-landed at Chateaudun A/D after combat damage. Cheers Monaco |
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Re: bombers at dieppe
Luftflotte 3 reports that 106 sent 3 Ju 88s to attack Portsmouth between 1700-1718 hrs followed by another 5 between 1832 and 1940 hrs. A further Ju 88 attacked a ship at 1906 hrs in PlQ 15W/2146 and another attacked the airfield at Thorney Island at 1851 hrs. 3 Ju 88s were lost-Kegenbein crashed on the Isle of Wight, Nottmeier was shot down off Selsey Bill and Lehmann crashed at West Dean. These crashes occurred between 1815 and 1930 hrs UK time
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Re: bombers at dieppe
Hmmm... one? I have two. The "3Z+FL" (100%) and the "3Z+YK" (45%).
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Re: bombers at dieppe
Hmm? Not at all. 3Z+FL was 100% at Forges-Les-Eaux with 4 killed and 3Z+YK 60% at Azourville with 2 wounded. They were after the same thing as 106-6 ac attacked Portsmouth between 1925-1935 hrs and one of these attacked a ship at 1929 hrs. Another 4 dropped bombs on the Isle of Wight. It is interesting that the only mention is of the Azourville aircraft which was attacked by a Beaufighter at 1935 hrs off the Isle of Wight, lost and engine and force-landed at the emergency airfield with two wounded crew after which they counted 80 holes in the aircraft. There was only the one claim by a Beau and that was 141 Sqn and it was always thought that they had shot down Nottmeier's Ju 88. Looking at the NVM, for both, it mentions they were both damaged by fighters in sea targets connected with Dieppe
Last edited by Chris Goss; 23rd May 2017 at 17:17. |
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Re: bombers at dieppe
Better would be Auzouville-Auberbosc and the other I have with Fontaine-en-Bray (but the difference to Forges-les-Eaux are 11 km only).
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Re: bombers at dieppe
All that the NVM says is Forges-les-Eaux and Azouville sur Ry whilst the Luftflotte 3 report states for the latter Auzourville (bei Rouen) Notlandplatz
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