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Old 13th September 2023, 17:55
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Luftwaffe prisoners involved in Canadian PoW escape 19/4/41

Hi guys

I'm unaware if this has been discussed previously ....

On 19 April 1941, 28 Luftwaffe prisoners attempted an escape from the Angler PoW Camp in Ottawa, Canada. Two were killed by guards - Gfr Herbert Loffelmeir and Gfr Alfred Meithling; another, Kurt Rochel, was seriously wounded, and Oscar Broderix less so. Just over two months later, on 30 June, Martin Muller was killed by two soldiers (?) PS Just established that Muller was a submariner, ex U-35

Does anyone know the Lw units of the above, and dates of capture?

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Old 13th September 2023, 18:08
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Re: Luftwaffe prisoners involved in Canadian PoW escape 19/4/41

Broderix was KG 53 (POW 9 Sep 40) and was shot through the nose; quite bitter about his treatment he told me. Rochel was ZG 26 (2 Sep 40).
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Re: Luftwaffe prisoners involved in Canadian PoW escape 19/4/41

Interesting subject. I guess the 'Battle of Bowmanville' has received the most attention as an event where the prisoners did not comply.
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Re: Luftwaffe prisoners involved in Canadian PoW escape 19/4/41

Thanks for the responses.

Any ideas as to the previous units of Gfr Herbert Loffelmeir and Gfr Alfred Meithling?

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Old 14th September 2023, 09:13
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Re: Luftwaffe prisoners involved in Canadian PoW escape 19/4/41

Quick check revealed nothing-could be Army or Navy. Got photos of Broderix and Rochel pre-capture
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Re: Luftwaffe prisoners involved in Canadian PoW escape 19/4/41

Gefr. Herbert Löffelmeier (note spelling) here: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...rt-l_ffelmeier

For Gefr. Alfred Miethling (note spelling): https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...fred-miethling

Also see http://www.ubootarchiv.de/ubootwiki/...ungsliste_U_31

Some pictured here: https://archive.fims.uwo.ca/specialc...992833860a.pdf

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Re: Luftwaffe prisoners involved in Canadian PoW escape 19/4/41

Hi Leendert

Excellent! Many thanks!

Solves a few queries! So the two guys who were killed were also submariners. Fine. The article suggests that the following were aircrew:

Erwin Genssler (pilot)
Phil Hess (observer)
Erhard Scheidt

while photograph suggests possibly also:

Wilhelm Raab
Georg Wolff
Karl-Heinz Grund
Heinz Ettler

Again, any Lw units and dates of capture, please?

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Scheidt 1./JG 26 5 Nov 40
Raab 6./KG 76 15 Sep 40
Wolff 8./KG 30 20 Aug 40
Grund II./LG 1 15 Aug 40
Ettler 1./JG 77 9 Sep 40
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Many thanks once again, Chris.

Just leaves GENSSLER (pilot)

and HESS (observer)

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Gensler (one s) 4./ZG 26 7 Oct 40
Philipp Hess 3./KG 2 16 Aug 40
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