Successful pilots against the Mosquito

[mayfair35]

Gentlemen: May I suggest you talk with Jorge Czypionka to discuss Mosquito victories at night. He attends our Camarillo Annual Air Show if able and tells me he downed two Mosquitos and one Typhoon while flying the Me-262 as a night fighter. Would you like me to contact him and determine if he is willing to discuss this with you?
Cordially, Art Fiedler

[Jim P.]

As a side note, Major Yasuhiko Kuroe from the JAAF's 64th Sentai claimed two Mosquitos while flying the Ki.43.
Nov. 2, 1943, 1 Mosquito (P/O Fielding, 684 Sqn.)
Dec. 10, 1943, 1 Mosquito (P/O Cotton, 684 Sqn.)

[Erich]

Hey Art

actually Georg shot down the Typhoon flying a day camo'd Me 262A-1a. an interesting story it was too. His missions will be covered in our book

best

[chuckschmitz]

I believe there was a claim made by a pilot of JG 5 that occurred during a daylight raid over Norway. I need to check sources unless someone can help out.

Chuck

[chuckschmitz]

Uffz Rudolf Fenten of 6/JG 5 claimed a Mosquito in Sept 1942. The aircraft was shotdown near Oslo.

[Andrew Arthy]

Hi,

I started researching this, and got a little carried away. Please find attached all of the victory claims for Mosquitos that I could find (courtesy of Russell Guest’s victory claims list). There was a total of at least 218 claims, made up of:
- 1 in 1941
- 21 in 1942
- 42 in 1943
- 97 in 1944
- 57 in 1945

Leading overall scorers against the Mosquito were:

37: Kurt Welter, 10./J.G. 300, II./N.J.G. 11
8: Klaus Reichenbach, 10./J.G. 300, II./N.J.G. 11
6: Karl-Heinz Becker, II./N.J.G. 11
4: Heinz Käppler, 14./J.G. 5, 15./J.G. 5
3: Adolf Glunz, 4./J.G. 26, 5./J.G. 26
Heinz Strüning, 2./N.J.G. 1, 3./N.J.G. 1
Joachim Weber, Erpro. Kdo. 262
2: Günther Allmenröder, 3./J.G. 1
Walter Baltruschat, 10./J.G. 300
Karl Bugaj, 11./J.G. 1
Rudolf Fenten, 1./J.G. 77, 2./J.G. 5
Rolf Glogner, 2./J.G. 400
Knud Gmelin, 1./Z.G. 1
Ernst-Ewald Hittler, 3./N.J.G. 1
Georg Hutter, 5./J.G. 1
Max Kolschek, 6./J.G. 1, 4./J.G. 1
Friedrich May, 8./J.G. 2
Karl Mitterdorfer, 10./J.G. 300
Josef Nabrich, 3./N.J.G. 1
Rauer, 3./N.J.G. 1
Robert Spreckels, A.St. J.G. 11


Leading scorers for claims included in the victory claims microfilms were:

10: Kurt Welter, 10./J.G. 300, II./N.J.G. 11
3: Adolf Glunz, 4./J.G. 26, 5./J.G. 26
Heinz Strüning, 2./N.J.G. 1, 3./N.J.G. 1
2: Walter Baltruschat, 10./J.G. 300
Knud Gmelin, 1./Z.G. 1
Ernst-Ewald Hittler, 3./N.J.G. 1
Friedrich May, 8./J.G. 2
Karl Mitterdorfer, 10./J.G. 300
Josef Nabrich, 3./N.J.G. 1
Rauer, 3./N.J.G. 1
Klaus Reichenbach, 10./J.G. 300, II./N.J.G. 11
Robert Spreckels, A.St. J.G. 11


Broken down by theatre:
West & Norway: 215
Mediterranean: 2
Rumania: 1


Night versus day claims (not sure of exact times for some claims):
Night: 105
Day: 113


Not sure how many of these claims can be matched to actual losses – I’ll leave that bit of research to someone else.


Cheers,
Andrew A.

Air War Publications – www.airwarpublications.com

[krichter33]

Thanks for all the great information Andrew. That was exactly what I was looking for. I also appreciate the research you've done on the Mosquito claims actually confirmed. Great work!

[mhuxt]

Andrew - check PMs.

[RodM]

Hello One & All,

regarding Welter, I think it is time to stop repeating the myths over and over and over....

I see references made above to the tallies in the lists of some respected researchers and posters on this board, but I would contend that in compiling their lists they have sourced information from some less than reputable sources (i.e. such as the Nonnenmacher Nachtjagd claims lists).

According to the transcripts of the claims microfilms, Welter claimed 10 Mosquitoes between 26 Aug - 28 Oct 1944. Of these 10 claims, according to the transcripts, eight were acknowledged and two were still awaiting acknowledgement.

According to Welter's Wehrpass, between 2 Nov 44 - end of Feb 45 he made a further 15 claims (two of which were reputedly Lancasters), and from March until the end of the war, a further 8 claims.

Thus, from these two fragmentary documentary sources:

10 Mosquitoes (8 of which confirmed) 8-10/44
13 believed Mosquitoes 11/44-2/45
8 believed Mosquitoes 3/45-5/45
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31 possible Mosquito claims

In looking at these claims, the 13 believed Mosquitoes claimed between 11/44-2/45 inclusive are very difficult to verify in terms of the date of the claim and the actual e/c type claimed.

Then there is Welter's often quoted post-war memo of 29/5/1945, which is in contradiction with itself and the claims microfilms/Wehrpass. The first part of Welter's memo breaks down his flying and Mosquito claims by type flown and date, while the second part of the memo provides a break-down by enemy type of his claims.

(1st part of memo) - 7 Mosquitoes in Bf109 between 8-9/44, 3 Mosquitoes (night) in Me262 between 9/44-1/45, 22 Mosquitoes (20 night, 2 day) in Me262 between 1-4/45 = 32 Mosquito claims.

(2nd part of Memo) - 1 Mosquito (day) in Bf109, 2 Mosquitoes (day) in Me262, 20 Mosquitoes (night) in Me262 = 23 Mosquito claims.

Cheers

Rod

[Erich]

just to add to Rod's posting in all probability due to the brief reasons I gave on an earlier posting on page # 1, Kurt W. did not fly a 262A-1a in March onward. The idea that twin seater Röte 10 was his is also falsified as well.