Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces

Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the German Luftwaffe and the Air Forces of its Allies.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 6th April 2006, 08:21
Adam's Avatar
Adam Adam is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 601
Adam
Stupid Question re: shipping

Was there a register for claims of ships sunk by Kuestenflieger/kampfflieger personnel? If so has anybody ever come across it - any hints on were to start looking (other than unit and Lflt. KTBs) would be much appreciated

TIA

Adam
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 7th April 2006, 01:31
edwest edwest is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,612
edwest is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Stupid Question re: shipping

A very broad but unrivalled reference on all ships lost in all theaters by all causes is this:

http://www.usni.org/webstore/shopexd.asp?id=46951


An excellent book about German operations with torpedo dropping aircraft is this:

http://www.hikokiwarplanes.com/torpedos.htm




Usual disclaimer,
Ed
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 7th April 2006, 02:37
Adam's Avatar
Adam Adam is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 601
Adam
Re: Stupid Question re: shipping

Thanks Ed

I have the Thiele book but was after something a bit more detailed..

Will try and get my hands on the other one you mentioned

Adam
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 7th April 2006, 10:16
Brian Bines Brian Bines is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,325
Brian Bines is on a distinguished road
Re: Stupid Question re: shipping

There is a Stationery Office publication from 1947 called 'British Merchant Vessels Lost or Damanaged By Enemy Action During Second World War' it llists date, ships name, tonnage, position and cause (i.e. A.C),
Regards
Brian
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 7th April 2006, 21:12
Nick Beale's Avatar
Nick Beale Nick Beale is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Exeter, England
Posts: 5,314
Nick Beale will become famous soon enoughNick Beale will become famous soon enough
Re: Stupid Question re: shipping

Other possibilities: "Chronology of the War at Sea" by Rohwer & Hummelchen (I think a new German edition came out recently but there was an older English edition); a Lloyd's of London register of lost merchant shipping (I can't remember the exact title but it was in my local public reference library); or British Admiralty station diaries which are in the UK National Archives (I have used the Mediterranean one in the past).
__________________
Nick Beale
http://www.ghostbombers.com
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 8th April 2006, 01:59
George Hopp's Avatar
George Hopp George Hopp is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ottawa, CA
Posts: 830
George Hopp
Re: Stupid Question re: shipping

Quote:
There is a Stationery Office publication from 1947 called 'British Merchant Vessels Lost or Damanaged By Enemy Action During Second World War' it llists date, ships name, tonnage, position and cause (i.e. A.C),
Another book issued by the Stationary Office in 1947 was a book entitled "British and Foreign merchant vessels lost or damaged by enemy action during Second World War." It is compiled by nation of registry, and includes fishing boats damaged and sunk by enemy action. There is even a section of losses of M/Vs and fishing boats lost but not to enemy action. Hmmm, even Switzerland lost 2 M/Vs during the war.

Last edited by George Hopp; 8th April 2006 at 02:46.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 8th April 2006, 15:47
Marc BENOIT Marc BENOIT is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ostwald France
Posts: 53
Marc BENOIT
Re: Stupid Question re: shipping

Hello,

At the Bundesarchiv in Freiburg, there are lists of claims of ships damaged or sunk by the Luftwaffe from the outbreak of the war till approx the end of 1940.
They give date , unit , tonnage , place , bombs used , damage
I can check the exact archiv quotes if you want.

Another source could be the Lloyds list of vessels lost during WW2 if you can acceed to it ( unfortunately, I couldn't yet)

Hope this helps Marc
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 9th April 2006, 07:40
Adam's Avatar
Adam Adam is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 601
Adam
Re: Stupid Question re: shipping

Marc,

Thant's exactly what I was after. As part of my thesis I want to look at claims v. actual losses so the books everyone mentioned are a great start - hopefully the Freiburg stuff will balance it

Thanks again guys

Adam
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 9th April 2006, 15:10
Nick Beale's Avatar
Nick Beale Nick Beale is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Exeter, England
Posts: 5,314
Nick Beale will become famous soon enoughNick Beale will become famous soon enough
Re: Stupid Question re: shipping

The Lloyds register I mentioned was "Lloyd's War Losses - the Second World War Vol.1: British, Allied and Neutral Merchant Vessels Sunk or Destroyed by War Causes" (Lloyds of London Press Ltd., 1989)
__________________
Nick Beale
http://www.ghostbombers.com
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Friendly fire WWII Brian Allied and Soviet Air Forces 799 27th March 2022 23:12
Tactical codes of Stab., I and II/SG4 (Ghostbombers.com -inspirated) question Kari Lumppio Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 7 14th December 2005 21:59
Ju-88D-1,T5+GH, colour question brewerjerry Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 5 9th May 2005 20:11
Fw 190F-9 canopy question Morten Jessen Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 19 28th March 2005 08:42
305 Sqn (Polish) Mosquito SM-G "RZ399" question Kari Lumppio Allied and Soviet Air Forces 4 9th February 2005 23:19


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 06:40.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net