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Old 25th February 2018, 18:07
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Feldwebel Ernst Riedl JG 2

Hello,
Fw. Ernst Riedl lost in action with an Fw 190D-9 at 19. March 1945 near Östringen. Was he lost in combat with P-47 oder Spitfire from the French Airforce?
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Old 25th February 2018, 20:46
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Re: Feldwebel Ernst Riedl JG 2

Hello,

I cannot find him in the JG 2 losses.

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Old 26th February 2018, 09:13
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Re: Feldwebel Ernst Riedl JG 2

On 19 March 1945 Lieutenant Prunget of GC 2/7 "Nice" claimed a solitary Fw 190 shot down at 1735 hrs near Kronau (6 km W Östringen). He reported he crashed in flames with the pilot aboard.

Source: "Pilots français sur l'Alsace et l'Allemagne", by Daniel Decot

So a possible but there were also many USAAF claims that day for which I have no details.
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Old 26th February 2018, 13:19
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Re: Feldwebel Ernst Riedl JG 2

Hello,

Fw Ernst Riedl was a Bf 109-pilot of 1./JGrSüd. On 19 March 1945 he was shot down by a P-51 Mustang and KIA near Eichtersheim.

Source: Investigation of Klaus Deschner/www.plane-crashes-heidelberg.

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Old 26th February 2018, 13:42
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Re: Feldwebel Ernst Riedl JG 2

Hello,
I don't think so! Fw. Riedl is listed at an "Einquartierungsliste" from JG 2 at Nidda. At his crashplace parts from the Jumo Engine where found and I have an lostlist from JG 2 with his name on it! He was only a couple of days with JG 2. Parts from JG 2 used Malmsheim at this days! Do you mean one of the JG 53 crashplaces around Bruchsal?
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Old 26th February 2018, 14:54
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Re: Feldwebel Ernst Riedl JG 2

Hello h.,

in the sixties the engine of Fw Riedl's Bf 109 was salvaged at the crashplace Angelbachtal-Eichtersheim near Östringen. I have quoted the results of the investigations of Klaus Deschner.
If you are right the results of his researches are wrong.

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Old 26th February 2018, 17:49
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Re: Feldwebel Ernst Riedl JG 2

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. . . I have an lostlist from JG 2 with his name on it! . . . Parts from JG 2 used Malmsheim at this days! . . .
Hi,
I would be interested in this detail of the list and which parts of J.G. 2 used Malmsheim a/f ?

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Old 27th February 2018, 14:20
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Re: Feldwebel Ernst Riedl JG 2

Dear fellow researchers,

1) the correct spelling is Fw. Riedel, Ernst (* 25.10.1917, Markhausen, + 19.3.45, Eichtersheim)
2) the unit to wich Fw. Riedel belonged on 19.3.45 is: 11./(III.)/JG 2

Please find attached a copy of the original war grave notification as sent by the community of (Angelshausen-)Eichtersheim to the Volksbund. As you can clearly read in this list, his unit is given as L 37547 Lg.P.A. Frankfurt/M. (Feldpost Nr.), which deciphers to: 11./JG 2 "R" .

On 17.10.44 he belonged to 4./JGr. Süd and was wounded in a crash landing at Neuruppin in Fw 190 A-8, 170655, w 12 . This info comes from a JGr. Süd loss list written by Hans Ring at WASt about 30 years ago. However, Ring spelled the Name "Riedl".
However - i think the spelling Riedel is correct.

@Rottler: the engine salvaged in Eichtersheim was a Jumo 213 (Peter Huber, Luftkrieg im Kraichgau, 2.Aufl., pp.218/26). This fits nicely to the Fw 190 D-9 flown by Riedel.

Unfortunately, the NVM of III./JG 2 for Riedel is not available anymore.

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Old 27th February 2018, 14:36
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Re: Feldwebel Ernst Riedl JG 2

Ring spelled the name "Riedl" because it is written as such in the NVM. However, in the EKM-list it is written "Riedel". There are numerous cases like this between NVMs and EKM-lists. To be sure of the correct spelling you should ask the family members.

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Old 28th February 2018, 15:24
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Re: Feldwebel Ernst Riedl JG 2

Hello,
I found a Feldwebel Riedel of III./JG 2 in the "Einquartierungliste" from Babenhausen, dated with March, 19th 1945.

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