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Old 29th June 2020, 19:26
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Thanks.
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Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

https://www.jets-are-for-kids.ch/pdf...ung%201943.pdf


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The crews Fw.Juchelka, Oblt.Lembke with CN + EL and Ogefr.Klünsch, Ofw.Wörner with TI + VR started together with a third Fi156 at 9.35 a.m. in Munich-Riem for the transfer flight to Bari / Italy, with a commanded stopover in Vicenza; The first stork flight for both pilots. The third stork as the faster plane had soon hung the other two, who, admiring the Alps panorama, did not notice the overflight from Innsbruck and therefore failed to turn towards the Brenner. Both planes continued to fly Along the Inn Valley, they continued to travel westwards, eventually completely losing their orientation. Because they had been trained in blind flight, the crews were unable to approach the Inn Valley upwards through the cloud cover. The Engadin came to Switzerland without being aware of this fact. When the two storks approached Samedan, the two storks were asked to land by the Swiss air traffic control officers by firing flares. Fw.Juchelka and Ogefr.Klünsch, in the place unknown to them, the two with pistols n armed crews were informed by the Swiss ground crew about the landing site, disarmed and brought individually for questioning. The four pilots had to be interned as personnel of a task force, the two Fi156 had to be seized




11.50Uhr,LandunginSamedanb/St.MoritzFi156C3/trop,W.Nr.1144/1943(MoraneSaulnierPuteaux)StammkennzeichenTI+VRVerbandskennzeichenDreieck+Y,II.Gruppe/SG2




11.45 Uhr, Landung in Samedan b/St. Moritz
Fi 156C‐3/trop, W.Nr. 8063/1943 (Fieseler Kassel)
Stammkennzeichen CN+EL
Überführungskennzeichen BA+RI, II. Gruppe / SG 2








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Old 2nd July 2020, 13:00
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Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Snautzer

All this can be found in Ries book Deutsche Luftwaffe über der Schweiz 1939-45.

What I am wondering about is why Luftwaffe bothered to issue überführungskennz in the first place? The general STKZ should be good enough as I see it.

Also was BA+RI really a ferry marking? An aircraft on transfer to Bari carrying the code BA+RI? Sounds more like a good joke to me.....

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Old 2nd July 2020, 13:02
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All this can be found in Ries book Deutsche Luftwaffe über der Schweiz

Undoubtedly, but i have not read all books nor did i know this story. It is just a heads up.
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Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Good evening Gentlemen
CN+EL does still exist, infos, as for all foreign planes in Switzerland 1939-1945, see here: www.warbird.ch

For this "Storch":
https://warbird.ch/wb-events/ueberfuehrung-nach-bari/

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-PHOTO-...oAAOSw9jte~f1J
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Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Hello everyone,
Post #3786 - While the rudder/fin “D-9 fillet” is hard to see, I think that the distance from the tailwheel leg to the rudder line suggests an Fw 190 D-9. What does everyone else think?
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Old 3rd July 2020, 19:30
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Hi Steve.
My opinion is that this is the FW 190 D-9. The vertical extension strip on the rudder is clear.
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