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Re: III/JG 3 Victories
Hello Nokose,
this could also be a loss referring to Langer´s claim on 18 March 1942: On 18.03.42 St. Lieutenant Theophanes Mikhailovich Kladov, navigator in Pe-3-equipped 321 ORAE (VVS Northwest Front), was killed during a combat mission. He burnt to death along with burning out airplane South-East of Cholm, D. M. Radilovo. kind regards |
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Re: III/JG 3 Victories
Just one more addition to the claim of Emil Bitsch on 26.02.42 there were more losses in the area:
26.02.42 Sergeant Dmitry Pavlovich Malykov, pilot in LaGG-3-equipped 416 IAP (VVS of 1st Shock Army, North-Western Front), did not return from a combat mission in the area of D. Staro-Mushevo, Staraya Russa district, Leningrad region. On 26.02.42 Ml. Lieutenant Nikolai Vasilyevich Polyakov, pilot in Yak-1-equipped 744 IAP (1 UAG, NW-Front), did not return from a combat mission from the region Lysino, Leningrad region. However 1./JG.51 also operated there and claimed 3 victories: 26.02.42 N.N. 1./JG 51 a/c - 10.32 (JFV 9/1) Anerk: Nr. (595) 26.02.42 N.N. 1./JG 51 a/c - 13.12 (JFV 9/1) Anerk: Nr. (596) 26.02.42 N.N. 1./JG 51 a/c - 13.19 (JFV 9/1) Anerk: Nr. (597) BTW could anybody fill the gap of claimants (names, locations...) of I./JG.51 pilots operating during the Demyansk airlift? |
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Re: III/JG 3 Victories
22 Jul 1942
Lt. Heinrich Graf von Einsiedel Stab III/JG 3 I-16 (9) 09:25 10:20-10:30 (Moscow) Konstantinovskaya. According to the report of the 483 IAP (temp. assigned to the 238 ShAD from the 265 IAD). Had two I-16 listed as MIA. I couldn't find the names of the pilots. |
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Re: III/JG 3 Victories
24 Jun 1942
8./JG 3 Fw Erich Schopper Yak-4 (2) 18:10 NE of Schtschigry 8./JG 3 Lt. Emil Bitsch Yak-4 (10) 18:12 NE " 8./JG 3 Lt. Wilhelm Lemke Yak-4 (29) 18:13 NE " 8./JG 3 Lt. Emil Bitsch Yak-4 (11) 18:17 NE of Stary Tschenoissinowo Pe-2 723 BAP (AE co.) Kapt. Mikhail Fedorovich Migal' (MIA) Pe-2 723 BAP (flight co.) St. Lt. Nikolay Sergeevich Ligusha (MIA) Pe-2 723 BAP Ml. Lt. Vladimir Dmitrievich Popov (MIA) Pe-2 723 BAP St. Serzhant Petr Vasil'evich Diribin (MIA) |
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Re: III/JG 3 Victories
Does anyone have Emil Bitsch's victories that he had in the west?
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Re: III/JG 3 Victories
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01.10.1943 13:44 B-17 14.10.1943 14:45 B-17 19.12.1943 12:28 B-17 KE: 6000 m. 23.02.1944 - B-24 |
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Re: III/JG 3 Victories
Maxim 1, Thank You. Does anyone have the locations from Prien's JFV 10/I to go with these also the victory number? For some strange reason his victories have been popping up lately.
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Re: III/JG 3 Victories
From Peter Kacha's site http://www.luftwaffe.cz/bitsch.html:
14.10.1943 - Aschaffenburg-Wuerzburg 19.12.1943 - Dolomit di Sesto Also the victory numbers are (105), (106), (107) and (108). |
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Re: III/JG 3 Victories
Thanks again Maxim 1. I have a book on the losses of the 8th and 9th USAAF for 1942-43 but nothing on the 12th and 15th USAAF losses. The 14 Oct 43 was the 2nd Schweinfurt raid. The Germans made heavy claims, it might be possible to find his claim.
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Re: III/JG 3 Victories
05 Jul 1942
7 Pe-2 from 50 BAP took off at 06:30 (M) to bomb tanks 1.5 km NW of Ust'e. Encountered heavy AAA and then were attacked by 10 Bf 109 (According to the Soviet report). The fighter escort was distracted. Two Pe-2 were shot down. The rest landed at 08:10 (M). 05 Jul 42 Lt. Emil Bitsch 8./JG 3 Yak-4 (19) 06:20 and Yak-4 (20) 06:22 III/JG 3 was still stationed in this area of the fighting around Voronezh until the 10 Jul 42 before moving on to Stalingrad. |
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