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Old 21st November 2015, 11:42
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WW2 Commonwealth aces

Hello, this is my list of all WW2 Commonwealth aces with at least 20 kills. Enjoy. Michael

NAME NAT KILLS
1. Marmaduke Pattle SA 50,67 [50+2] (provisionally)
2. James Johnson GB 36,92 [34+7]
3. William Vale GB 31,5 [30+3]
4. George Beurling CA 31,33 [31+1]
5. Adolph Malan SA 29,75 [27+7]
6. John Braham GB 29
7. Brendan Finucane IR 29 [26+6]
8. Clive Caldwell AU 28,5 [27+3]
9. James Lacey GB 28
10. Colin Gray NZ 27,7 [27+2]
11. Robert Tuck GB 27,67 [27+2]
12. Neville Duke GB 26,83 [26+2]
13. Eric Lock GB 26,5 [26+1]
14. Frank Carey GB 26,2 [25+3]
15. Lance Wade US 23 [22+2]
16. Douglas Bader GB 21,83 [20+4]
17. Donald Kingaby GB 21,67 [21+2]
18. Evan Mackie NZ 21,5 [20+3]
19. Henry McLeod CA 21
20. Branse Burbridge GB 21
21. Michael Crossley GB 21 [20+2]
22. Geoffrey Allard GB 20,83 [19+5]
23. William Crawford NZ 20,5 [20+1]
24. Pierre Clostermann FR 20 [17+6]
25. John Cunningham GB 20
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Wouldn't consider France as being a Commonwealth nation!
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OK, I rename the list WW2 Commonwealth forces aces with at least 20 kills.
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Good rename - last time I checked Broaddus, Texas was never part of the Commonwealth..
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...you refer to Mr Wade, it's understood ;-)

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Good morning Gentlemen,

I just finished working through Brian Cull's wonderful book "Screwball Beurling"
https://www.amazon.com/Screwball-Beu...8798233&sr=8-1
I read 5 Brian Cull books so far and each was really excellent but this one is even better than the others: a meticulous study about this fascinating and complicated character and thrilling descriptions of the dogfights over Malta.

Thumbs up !

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In Brian Cull's excellent William Vale biography "Gladiator Ace" I found the number of his shared kills indicated as 3 but also as 4. The kill in question is the half-share on 27Jan1941. Is it valid ?
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Clostermann was RAF VR was not he? Nonetheless I see here pilots from RAF, RAAF and RCAF, and those should be marked differently.
Pattle's score is privided incorrectly. His official RAF approved score stood much lower, 50+ was not ever recognised, and comes from a research.
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Re: WW2 Commonwealth aces

I also have separate threads for the guys mentioned:

Clostermann:
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...ht=clostermann
Pattle:
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...ghlight=pattle
Vale:
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...highlight=vale
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