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Old 7th July 2009, 15:55
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I'm looking for informations (photos, crew, fate) about Petlyakov Pe-2 FT serial number "white 1" from 205 bomber regiment(205 BAP)
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Old 7th July 2009, 22:58
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Re: Pe-2

the correct Soviet designation is simply 'Pe-2' , not Pe-2FT.
the tactical (or bort) number 1 is common for Regimental Commanders ,but is not always so.
I could find only minimal info on the 205 BAP.
from 'Petlyakov Pe-2 'Peshka' by Peter C. Smith
Crowood aviation series ISBN 1-86126-588-2 page 178 states:
part of 41 BAD from June 41 and equipped with the Tupolev SB
stationed on the Volga November 41 to April 42,on the Karelian front in May 42.
part of 2 RAB June/July 42, part of 13 VA in May 43,part of 285 BAD
became the 128 GBAP in October 43
page 187 list the commanders of 41 BAD as Col. I. Ya. Novikov -SOW
and V.N. Zhdanov.

at military.lib.ru I found a brief mention of the 128 GBAP and the following is translated by Babelfish:



sufficiently intensive was the attack 45 P -2 of 1 [gv]. tank to the airfield of enemy in [Libave] (Liyepaya). On October 22, 1944. to the fulfillment of assignments departed 18 crews of 128 [GBAP], 9 crews of 127 [Gv]. [BAP] under the command of guards of Lieutenant Colonel [Dubinkin] and 18 crews of 35 [Gv]. [BAP] headed by of guards major [Sven's]. Them they covered 64 fighters of 11 [IAK]. After leaving to the purpose, pilots bombed flight lines, hangars, center of landing area. The Earth was covered with many explosions. The clouds of black smoke rose to the sky. Escort fighters, after ascertaining that in air there is no enemy, began to also deliver impacts on the airfield. They, diving, fired from the guns and the machine guns aircraft on the stands, airport technology and the scattering themselves soldiers.

Bombers and fighters, after carrying out combat mission, returned to their airfields. Pilot, undertaken into the captivity on the broken airfield, showed that at the moment of attack on the landing area were located near [149] 100 fighters. They recently returned from the task, they taxied to the stands and did not have time to be filled. As a result unexpected for the enemy attack of 10 aircraft burnt-out and to 50 machines it was damaged. Not one enemy fighter into air rose.

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Re: Pe-2

Nice to think that we used to escort the Pe-2s in '41!

Was just going to say here is one of them when I realised that it isn't!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...o04/bomber.jpg

What was it??

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Old 8th July 2009, 12:13
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Re: Pe-2

Tim,

it seems like this is an SB bomber from the 5 AE of 72 SAP SF..

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Old 8th July 2009, 18:47
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Re: Pe-2

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I'm looking for informations (photos, crew, fate) about Petlyakov Pe-2 FT serial number "white 1" from 205 bomber regiment(205 BAP)
Could you please go into details with your question. What period you are interested in? "White 1" seems to be the commander's plane, but is not enough to draw any conclusions...
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Re: Pe-2

Thanks for that!

We used to refer to the Pe 2s as the 110 jobs - reminiscent of the Me110.
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Old 8th July 2009, 23:06
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Could you please go into details with your question. What period you are interested in? "White 1" seems to be the commander's plane, but is not enough to draw any conclusions...
Plane was used in 1943 and had green painting on the top and russian blue below. Except "white 1" located on the rudder, plane had inscription along fuselage (over te red star):

"Smiert niemietskim okkupantam"- (eng.) "Death To German Invaders"
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Re: Pe-2

there is a very famous Il-2 with 'Smert Fashistkim Okkupantam' (die fascist occupiers)on it ,but this is the first I have heard of an inscription like that on a Pe-2.(this would be very interesting to see)if you do not have a photo then what are you basing this on?artwork profile? (often inaccurate)pilot's recollection?if you have a profile , then can you upload it or provide a link?
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Old 10th July 2009, 07:02
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Re: Pe-2

ah! that looks like the instructions from a UM Pe-2 kit.
(I have 101 and 109)

although some early series Pe-2's had a simple green upper-surface scheme, by 1943 the two and three color upper-surface schemes were the normal camoflage.

the following green/black scheme was popular on the Pe-2 and can be seen on machines as late as June 1944.





this next scheme uses AMT colors and follows the NKAP template issued on July 3 rd 1943.


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