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Old 12th November 2009, 12:02
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Re: Fw190G losses, 11 Jan 1944, Italy.
Hi,

here are II/SG.4 losses in Italy Nov 43 to May 44 that I have - additions and corrections welcomed.

03/11/43 Uffz.Georg Walz KIA Fw.190G-3 (160386) Termoli A/A Fire
07/11/43 Oblt.Horst Doring KIA Fw.190G-3 (160406) Monte Lungo A/A
10/11/43 Lt.Gottschalk Renzow KIA Fw.190G-3 (160052) Venafro A/A Fire
11/11/43 Uffz.Wilhelm Bulow KIA Fw.190G-2 (181552) Anagni LK by P.51
20/11/43 Lt.Walter Sonnenberger KIA Fw.190 ??? S.Sesso A/A Fire
Uffz.Fredrich v Waldenburg KIA Fw.190G-3 (160389) Capua A/A Fire
Uffz.Heinrich Sommer KIA Fw.190G-3 (160318) Capua A/A Fire
Lt.Karl-Heinz Haye KIA Fw.190G-3 (160019) Capua A/A Fire
24/11/43 Fw.Heinz Denke WIA Fw.190G-3 (160040) nr Naples LK
Uffz.Oto Herschatt KIA Fw.190G-3 (160334) Montevenere Absturz
28/11/43 F.Uffz. Karl Jonas KIA Fw.190G-2 (181667) Castelfrentano LK Spitfire
Hpt.Werner Schulz KIA Fw.190G-2 (160066) Castelfrentano LK Spitfire
01/12/43 Obst v Muller Reinsburg KIFA Fw.190G-3 (160435) Castel de Sangro eng Fail
04/12/43 Uffz Paul Lennemann KIA Fw.190G-3 (160432) Littorio Absturz
15/12/43 Fw.Johan Nestler KIA Fw.190G-3 (181541) Roccamonfrina A/A Fire
19/12/43 Oblt Hermann Urban KIA Fw.190G-3 (160003) Aquino LK Spitfire

got to pause here but will post 1944 losses later

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Old 12th November 2009, 14:37
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Re: Fw190G losses, 11 Jan 1944, Italy.
Hi,
Back with II/SG.4 lsses for 1944 Italy Jan - May.

03/01/44 Uffz.Heinrich Schwierenburg KIA Fw190G-3 (160020) S.Elia A/A FSA
06/01/44 Lt.Gerhard Katzmann KIA Fw190G-3 (160410) S.Froscione LK Spitfire
08/01/44 Uffz.Helmut Schlang KIA Fw190G-3 (16009) Guionia Absturz Eng Failure
11/01/44 Ofw Hans Peterburs KIA Fw190G-3 (160370) NE Salle LK Spitfire
22/01/44 Fw.Franz Jungels WIA Fw190A-6 (740320) Nettuno -No Details
Ofw.Heinrich Jackel WIA Fw190G-3 (160331) Genzano - No Details
23/01/44 Ofr Rudolf Pundt KIA Fw190G-3 (160409) Viterbo - LK P40
24/01/44 Fw.Josef Rupping WIA Fw190G-3 (169482) Genzano/Roma LK P40
28/01/44 Uffz Bernhard Holl KIA Fw190G-3 (160073) NW Anzio LK
02/02/44 Uffz.Kurt Radebold KIA Fw190G-3 (160429) NW Anzio LK Spitfire
07/02/44 Lt Walter Klein KIA Fw190G-3 (160467) NW Anzio LK Spitfire
Uffz Georg Grandl KIA Fw190A-6 (470440) N Anzio LK Spitfire FSA
10/02/44 Fw.Jakob Kelner WIA Fw190A-6 (470429) NW Anzio LK
19/02/44 Uffz.Walter Schierhorn WIA Fw190A-6(470414) SW Bagno LK FSA
20/02/44 Hpt Erich Bunge WIA Fw190G-3 (160833) S.Aprilia A/A Fire FSA
21/02/44 Uffz.Hans Ehrens KIA Fw190G-3 (160048) E.Vetralla LK
FjUffz.Manfred Stapf KIA Fw190A-6 (470618) SE.Roma LK
27/02/44 Lt.Hans Seibert WIA Fw190G-3 (160832) Civita Castellana LK
Spitfire
FwGerhard Barth KIA Fw190A-6 (470406) W.Aprilia LK Spitfire
14/03/44 FjUffz.Peter Fischer KA Fw190G-3 (160357) Viterbo Absturz
17/03/44 Oblt Erhard Herges KIA Fw190G-3 (160479) N.Aquilara LK Spitfire
22/03/44 Lt Bernd Haumann KIA Fw190G-3 (160842) Viterbo LK Spitfire
Fw.Karl Friebel KIA Fw190A-6 (470448) Viterbo LK Spitfire
06/04/44 Uffz,Johannes Kiefer WIA Fw190G-3 (160818) Perugia Absturz
12/04/44 Fw.Karl-August Heberle KIA Fw190G-3 (160848) Roma LK Spitfire
Fw.Hermann Muller KIA Fw190G-3 (160825) Monte Cimina Collided
with Bf.109
18/04/44 FjFw.Karl-Heinz Reichardt KIA Fw190G-8 (190032) N.Roma LK P47
Uffz.Erich Scherffius KIA Fw190G-3 (160837) N.Roma P47
21/04/44 Uffz.Fritz Wipprecht WIA Fw190G-8 (190010) W.Nettuno LK
Spitfire
13/05/44 Lt.Gunther Entres KIA Fw190G-8 (190068) ?? LK Spitfire
Lt.Gerhard Gartner WIA Fw190A-6 (470444) S.Giovanni LK Spitfire
FSA
18/05/44 Hpt.Gerhard Walther KIA Fw190A-6 (470409) Scandriglia LK
Spitfire FSA
19/05/44 Lt.Karl-Heinz Ahrens WIA Fw190G-8 (190062) Montefiascone LK
Spitfire FSA
21/05/44 Lt.Herbert Bertram KIA Fw190F-8 (580049) Cassino LK Spitfire
Ofw.Hans Schmitt KIA Fw190F-8 (580444) Roma LK Spitfire
Lt.Horst Kulpa KIA Fw190G-8 (190057) Viterbo LK Spitfire
Uffz.Gerhard Assmann KIA Fw190G-3 (160860) Viterbo LK Spitfire
Uffz.Rolf Manske KIA Fw190F-8 (930505) Roma LK Spitfire
25/05/44 Uffz.Gunther Panknin Fw190F-8 (580458) Montefiascone LK
26/05/44 Fw.Heinrich Langheit KIA Fw190F-8 (580586) Lake Bracciono LK
Spitfire
Obgef.Alex Sahse KIA Fw190F-8 (580454) Lake Bracciono LK
Spitfire
27/05/44 Lt.Otto Kallenberger KIA Fw190G-8 (190048) Amelia LK Spitfire

My source for the above came from a friend in Cologne back in 1981 when I was working on a project there with Atlas Copco/DavyMcKee. He was a fellow researcher and was very generous with information he had gathered on the Luftwaffe in Italy -sadly now passed away

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Re: Fw190G losses, 11 Jan 1944, Italy.
For April and May 1944 you can pick up a few additions from the articles on my website, Kittyhawk versus Fw 190: Rieti April 1944 and Schlachtgeschwader 4: last battles in Italy.

I owe most of my loss data to J. Richard Smith, supplemented a little by work of my own.
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For April and May 1944 you can pick up a few additions from the articles on my website, Kittyhawk versus Fw 190: Rieti April 1944 and Schlachtgeschwader 4: last battles in Italy.

I owe most of my loss data to J. Richard Smith, supplemented a little by work of my own.

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Re: Fw190G losses, 11 Jan 1944, Italy.
Hello Nick,

On 7. febr. 1944 a brit report Pro31 /4911, state that a pilot was made prisoner , detail as above

6.SG4 F A FJ Spit FW190A-5 WeE

No name given , hv you found anythingelse upon this case ??

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On 7 February 1944 a British report Pro31/4911, stated that a pilot was made prisoner:

6./SG4 FW190A-5 White E

No name given, have you found anything else upon this case ??

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Ok , Nick , now I see

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Re: Fw190G losses, 11 Jan 1944, Italy.
Hi
As an addition here are my list of lsses for I/SG4 - updates welcomed-

09/02/44 Lt.Kurt Kreig (2) KIA Fw.190G-2 (180854) Red H Absturz N.E.Piacenza
12/02/44 Uffz.Richard Gross (3) KIA Fw.190G-3 (160473) Green B. A/A S.Vittoria
14/02/44 Fj.Uffz.Bruno Nelte (3) KIA Fw190A-6 (470422) Absturz Viterbo
20/02/44 Gef. Karl Schultze (1) KIA Fw190G-3 (160500) Absurz Viterbo
22/02/44 Lt.Gunther Gerken v Schassen (1) KIA Fw190G-3 (160495) Green H
LK Spitfire S.E.Rome
Fw.Karl Sieder (1) KIA Fw190A-6 (470254) Green 6 Absturz Aprilia
11/03/44 Oblt.Hans v Prittwitz (3) & Ofw.Hans Werner Gulich (Stab) killed in Sm82 4V+CT Absturz Viterbo
18/03/44 Hpt.Karl Langenburg (1) KIA Fw190A-6 (470412) White 7 Absturz Rieti
20/03/44 Fw.Lothar Meyer (2) KIA Fw190A-6 (470250) Black 3 LK Spitfire Nettuno
Fw.Alfred Hofmeister (2) KIA Fw190A-6 (470409) Black 9 LK Spitfire Nettuno
Fw.Mathias Heigenhauser (2) KIA Fw190A-6 (470635) Black 4
LK Spitfire Nettuno
22/03/44 Ofw.Heinz Fischer (1) WIA Fw190A-6 (470639) White 9 A/A Cassino
27/03/44 Ofw.Georg Gertz (1) WIA Fw190A-6 (470267) White 2 LK Spitfire
Anzio
29/03/44 Fw.Erhard Kachele (1) KIA Fw190A-6 (470415) White 1 LK Nettuno
Fw.Theo Benien (1) KIA Fw190A-6 (470642) White 7 A/A Nettuno
StFw.Fritz Welzel (3) PoW Fw190A-6 (470639) White 6 LK Nettuno
Fw.Karl Wentker (2) KIA Fw190A-6 (470258) Black 2 A/A Nettuno
07/04/44 Hpt.Heinrich Zwipf (Stab) KIA Fw190A-6 (470644) LK P40 Rieti
Uffz.Kurt Fischr (1) KIA Fw190A-6 (470626) Green 4 LK P40 Rieti
12/04/44 Fw.Edgar Hajek (2) KIA Fw190A-6 (470641) Green 3 collided with Spitfire N.W.Rome
03/05/44 Lt.Heinrich Forster (1) KIA Fw190G-8 (190064) White 6 LK Spitfire Greppo
14/05/44 Oblt.Heinrich Karras (1) KIA Fw190A-6 (470637) White 3 LK Spitfire S.E.Cassino
15/05/44 Uffz.Karl-Albrecht Ronsch (1) KIA Fw190A-6 (47645) White 6 LK
P47 Diavalo
21/05/44 Oblt.Robert Reiprich (3) KIA Fw190A-6 (470454) Green 1 LK Spitfire E.Rome
Hpt.Rolf Strossner (3) KIA Fw190A-6 (470452) Green 5 LK Spitfire E.Rome
25/05/44 Fw.Helmut Hellerbrand (1) WIA Fw190A-6 (470586) Green 12
LK Spitfire S.E Montalto
Lt.Theodor Petz (3) KIA Fw190G-8 (190063) Black 3 LK Spitfire
Tarquinia
Uffz.Richard Ukat (3) KIA Fw190A-6 (470632) Green 4 LK Spitfire
S.E.Montalto

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Re: Fw190G losses, 11 Jan 1944, Italy.
A little correction to the II./SG4 list: the pilot killed on 17 march 1944 was Erhard Merges. AFAIK he's still buried at Oriolo Romano, his grave being guarded by two propeller blades coming from a Ca.133 (aircraft not connected with his death).

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