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SCW 30.12.37 claims question
Hi,
i found some info of losses in this day but were of 2 combats, first in the morning and second in the evening, i need some help with claims timing: 30.12.37 1.J/88 Lt. Walter Adolph I-15 ("Curtiss") Republican Spanish 1st/25 Spain 30.12.37/2332 1.J/88 Uffz. Ernst Terry I-15 ("Curtiss") Republican Spanish 1st/9 Spain 30.12.37 2-G-3 Aristides I-16 Type 5 "Rata" Republican Spanish Teruel, Puerto Escandon 30.12.37 Miguel Guerrero I-16 Type 5 "Rata" Republican Spanish Prob Teruel, Puerto Escandon morning?, evening? the other claims i know were: 30.12.37 1.J/88 Ofw. Ignaz Prestele I-16 Type 5 "Rata" Republican Spanish 1st/20 in the evening Spain Lieutenant Viktor Sklyarov bailed out, but he did not open, and the pilot was killed atributed to him here: http://airaces.narod.ru/spane/sklyrov.htm and these claims were in the morning: 30.12.37 3-E-3 Murcia Rubio, Javier I-16 Type 5 "Rata" Republican Spanish morning Teruel, Puerto Escandon 30.12.37 García López Rengel, Arístides I-16 Type 5 "Rata" Republican Spanish morning Teruel, Puerto Escandon 30.12.37 García López Rengel, Arístides SB-2 Republican Spanish morning Teruel, Puerto Escandon many thanks, regards
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Re: SCW 30.12.37 claims question
These claims are connected to the air combats over Teruel front on the morning time of 30.12.1937:
30.12.37 2-G-3 Aristides I-16 Type 5 "Rata" Republican Spanish Teruel, Puerto Escandon 30.12.37 Miguel Guerrero I-16 Type 5 "Rata" Republican Spanish Prob Teruel, Puerto Escandon Italian sources claim that during the various air combats of morning or early day of 30.12.1937 the Spanish Nationalist and Italian fighter pilots shot down in total as many as five I-16, five I-15 and one SB over Teruel. Of the losses of Republican side it is known that lt. Sumarev of 6/Grupo 21 (I-16) was killed. I do not have knowledge of the (rough) clocktime of the claims of Legion Condor pilots on 30.12.1937. |
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Re: SCW 30.12.37 claims question
hi,
thanks for your info these were the losses i found: I-16 of Alexander Ilyin (Ильин Александр Васильевич) damaged in combat with Bf109s and managed to return, pilot severely wounded, after two months in the hospital was sent home. December 30, 1937 in an air battle with the German Me-109 fighters Gusev was wounded in the throat, but managed to fly to the aerodrome and its safely to land. Some time in hospital, going from which continued to participate in combat. so atributed to germans but in the morning or evening ¿? Lieutenant Viktor Sklyarov bailed out, but he did not open, and the pilot was killed atributed to Prestele in the evening other losses: Lt Sumarev of 6a Esc kia, two other pilots of 6a Esc return to base wounded, all seven surviving I-16 suffered damage. Konstantin Dobronickiy I-16 with damage in the engine, and a pilot made a force-landed. On the run the plane crashed into a stone wall, the pilot ejected from the cab, he was severely injured and 23 days was unconscious probably were victims of these: 2-G-3 Aristides I-16 Type 5 "Rata" Republican Spanish 3-E-3 Murcia Rubio, Javier I-16 Type 5 "Rata" Republican Spanish morning García López Rengel, Arístides I-16 Type 5 "Rata" Republican Spanish morning Miguel Guerrero I-16 Type 5 "Rata" Republican Spanish Prob and also: García López Rengel, Arístides SB-2 Republican Spanish morning 1 SB-2 lost: SanJose, Marsal, Metralla all KIA regards
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