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Old 6th April 2016, 17:28
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Dornier 17Z F1+FH 16mm Footage 15/09/1940

During my research on Dornier 17Z-1 F1+FH of I/KG76 I discovered that one of the RAF pilots a/c had a cine-camera fitted and captured his part in the air combat. This was Pilot Officer A K Ogilvie of 609 Sqn. On searching the IWMs film archive I happened across what maybe Ogilvies footage. You can view it on the link below.

The footage begins at 12 minutes 30 Seconds:-
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/it...ect/1060013903

I have attached a few grabs for people to see. Relating to F1+FH I/KG76 I note the following which may tie into this aircraft, I add this may not be F1+FH but I believe it is at least smoking gun evidence:-

-The footage is directly linked to P/O A K Ogilvie who is recorded as attacking this a/c on 15/09/40. Of course, many other pilots also engaged this a/c
-The sequence is over 15 seconds, so I assume he expended most if not all of his ammunition on this Dornier
-The spinners are possibly white as per I/KG76
-There is a white fuselage band as per KG76 a/c
-The fin/rudder bar is the same location as the well known detached tail photos taken on the public house roof.
-The wing bar is now finally confirmed as on the port wing outside of the national marking.
-On image No.3 you can make out a possible 'F' on the fuselage after the cross.
-Throughout the footage there are no other Dorniers which would tie into the belief that this machine was having engine trouble and thus lagged behind the main force.
-Smoke is possibly beginning to issue from the port engine in image No.8 and you can also see the jettisoned canopy on the left hand edge. At this point he broke off the attack and I assume the able bodied crew began to bail out and Robert Zehbe put it onto auto-pilot before he to exited. Presumably shortly after this time frame Ray Holmes collision occurred.

Ogilvies interview quoted below:-
'On September 15th, now celebrated as Battle of Britain day, he shared in the downing of the famous Dornier Do17 which crashed on Victoria Railway Station. At about 1215 hours the Squadron was ordered South-East where over Kenley it waded into a formation of Do17s from KG76. During the melee that followed he launched his attack on Dornier F1+FH,wr.no.2361.Oberleutnant Robert Zehbe, the pilot of the Dornier, and two of his crew
were killed but two other crew members succeeded in baling out and were captured. Oglivie's
proof was photographic for his 16mm cine-camera, mounted in the wings like the eight.303
guns and synchronized with them, recorded a film showing an almost wingless Dornier
fuselage in one part of the sky and its tail unit in another. Though he too modestly admitted
that he was not the only attacker - and in fact Sergeant Holmes of 504 Squadron ,who ended
up by rolling off a Chelsea roof into a dustbin after baling out, claimed the final victory.
Ogilvie later filed the following Combat Report
"We were ordered to attack a large formation of Dornier 17, 215's with a heavy Me109 escort.
In getting in position I saw a lone Dornier seperated from his formation. I went for it and gave
it several bursts from the beam. The fire was returned. Two other Spitfires also attacked, and
on my next attack I could see fire in the Dornier's cockpit. As I went beneath it I saw two men
jump and their parachutes open.
The whole disintegration being a most amazing and terrifying sight. The enemy aircraft spun
and broke in half, and dropped somewhere around Battersea.
On orders from base I returned alone and pancaked."
The two German aviators landed on the Oval ,fortunately without disturbing any cricket,
whereas the main part of their aeroplane arrived in the forecourt of Victoria station. The tail
unit landed outside a Pimlico public house " to the great joy and comfort of the Patrons"
reported the Squadron Operations book'.

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Old 13th July 2016, 15:43
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Re: Dornier 17Z F1+FH 16mm Footage 15/09/1940

White stripe ID band only in left side. Good detail.
Thanks for posting the film and photos.
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