Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Allied and Soviet Air Forces

Allied and Soviet Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the Air Forces of the Western Allies and the Soviet Union.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 21st March 2010, 01:46
blythsco blythsco is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 149
blythsco is on a distinguished road
Photo Eagle Squadron Spitfire MK Vb Mount Farm UK 1944

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2455401...8236/?edited=1
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 21st March 2010, 03:57
brewerjerry brewerjerry is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Vancouver BC Canada ( Tiz a long way from Devon)
Posts: 786
brewerjerry
Re: Photo Eagle Squadron Spitfire MK Vb Mount Farm UK 1944

Hi
in amongst all the photos was a p-38 / halifax collision photo, interesting.
cheers
Jerry
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 21st March 2010, 05:04
blythsco blythsco is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 149
blythsco is on a distinguished road
Re: Photo Eagle Squadron Spitfire MK Vb Mount Farm UK 1944

Hi Jerry

I am not sure which photo you are referring to.

Cheers

Scott
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 21st March 2010, 20:02
brewerjerry brewerjerry is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Vancouver BC Canada ( Tiz a long way from Devon)
Posts: 786
brewerjerry
Re: Photo Eagle Squadron Spitfire MK Vb Mount Farm UK 1944

Hi
this one, p-38 with part of a halifax tail fin embedded in the wing.
amazing wonder what the story behind the photo is.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightni...ol-p38lighting

cheers
Jerry

I can't post here keeps coming up unable to copy / move on upload
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 21st March 2010, 22:51
blythsco blythsco is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 149
blythsco is on a distinguished road
Re: Photo Eagle Squadron Spitfire MK Vb Mount Farm UK 1944

Hi Jerry

That is out of someone else's flickr account. Very interesting shot. I wonder how the pilot managed to land it with that kind of damage!

Thanks
Scott
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 22nd March 2010, 04:28
kaki3152 kaki3152 is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,566
kaki3152 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Photo Eagle Squadron Spitfire MK Vb Mount Farm UK 1944

I have read somewhere that this was a ground collision. Does anyone really know?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 22nd March 2010, 05:42
brewerjerry brewerjerry is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Vancouver BC Canada ( Tiz a long way from Devon)
Posts: 786
brewerjerry
Re: Photo Eagle Squadron Spitfire MK Vb Mount Farm UK 1944

Hi
curiosity got the better of me...from various web sites.

Lockheed F-5B-1-LO Lightning

67318 in midair collision with RAF Halifax, embedding one of the Halifax's fins in the Lightning's port wing and bending starboard wing back by 26 degrees. Starboard engine froze but pilot was able to get the plane on the ground.
The Lightning is said to have arrived in the UK on 16th November 43 and was Salvaged on 22nd December 43. Photo shows the D Type unit embedded in side of the Lightning, said to be at Speke.

cheers
Jerry
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 24th March 2010, 13:45
Alex Smart Alex Smart is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Great Britain
Posts: 3,283
Alex Smart is on a distinguished road
Re: Photo Eagle Squadron Spitfire MK Vb Mount Farm UK 1944

Hello,

I have been attempting to find details of the Halifax involved in this "collision" but so far without success.

As noted the Lightning F-5 is said to have arrived in the UK about the 16th November 32 and salvaged on 22nd December 43.

Record Card shows:
42-67318 received 9-22-43( 22nd Sept 43) at Dallas Mod. Centr by air.
Newark NJ 10-20-43 (20th October 43).
Departed USA 11-12-43 (12th November 43) Some say by sea but arrival in UK in my humble opinion is too swift so must have been flown over the pond.
Received "SOXO" 11-16-43 (16th November 43).
8th AAF or 8 hours flying time.( not sure on this).
then
11-30-43 (30th November 43) to 12-13-43 (13th December 43).
lastly "SOXO" CON - AFMSCM F5B 8hrs 42 mins Flying time 6-9-44 (9th June 44) , 7-5-44 (5th July 44).

The Halifax tail section "D Type" was relatively new at this time and one suggestion was that it may have been from a Halifax that was not yet given an RAF serial number as it was still under makers control . I am not sure of this though. Any thoughts or info on the Halifax is most welcome.

Accident must have occured sometime between the 16th of November and the 13th December 43. From this I assume the accident took place on the 13th December 43.
Alex
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Friendly fire WWII Brian Allied and Soviet Air Forces 787 14th May 2019 23:53
Spitfire Vb Crashes in Alderney, Channel Islands. UK Tim Osborne Allied and Soviet Air Forces 7 22nd July 2010 15:17
Lt Robert "Tubby" Carlgren in F-5 (P-38) Cockpit, Mount Farm, UK blythsco Allied and Soviet Air Forces 0 4th March 2010 03:19
Spitfire Vb AB975 history or photo request? KlingonBatleth Allied and Soviet Air Forces 9 13th July 2009 15:39
Thunderbolts and Mustangs versus the Jagdwaffe (split topic) Ruy Horta Allied and Soviet Air Forces 98 9th August 2007 16:22


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:20.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net